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Reged: 09/18/05 Posts: 6706 Loc: Resident Donk Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #8459801 - 12/17/06 09:31 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: Nooooo. I would never post this on the internet.

lol

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I'll join others in thanking you for starting a fascinating discussion.

One thing you haven't discussed much...what is the scene like for older folks, those of us in the late 30s-early 50s? Is there much chance for us with the college kids? How about Thai women who are a bit older. Younger than 18 has zero appeal, in fact I think it's gross and terrible in a number of ways, but a college-oriented female is different (and to some degree, the older the better). And if the college scene is no good, what are the other options?

Is age an automatic turn-off for decent and attractive Thai women as described above?

Btw I've visited Thailand briefly and it is an impressively beautiful country in many ways. In fact I stayed at a country home for a few days made of pure teakwood (this house was on stilts)...it was a very relaxing and fascinating few days. I did pick up a few words and didn't really think the language all that challenging, so if I could give you something back for this great thread I'd strongly suggest you study the language more seriously...I'm sure you'd appreciate the benefits.

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Reged: 12/04/05 Posts: 735 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: firedogpete] #8461520 - 12/17/06 01:59 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: I'll join others in thanking you for starting a fascinating discussion.

One thing you haven't discussed much...what is the scene like for older folks, those of us in the late 30s-early 50s? Is there much chance for us with the college kids? How about Thai women who are a bit older. Younger than 18 has zero appeal, in fact I think it's gross and terrible in a number of ways, but a college-oriented female is different (and to some degree, the older the better). And if the college scene is no good, what are the other options?

Is age an automatic turn-off for decent and attractive Thai women as described above?

Btw I've visited Thailand briefly and it is an impressively beautiful country in many ways. In fact I stayed at a country home for a few days made of pure teakwood (this house was on stilts)...it was a very relaxing and fascinating few days. I did pick up a few words and didn't really think the language all that challenging, so if I could give you something back for this great thread I'd strongly suggest you study the language more seriously...I'm sure you'd appreciate the benefits.

Although I admittedly get a bit creeped out when I see a 20 year old smokin' Thai girl with a Hawaiian shirt clad older man, I have to say that I definitely saw more than my fair share of 'older' couples on my last trip. It was really heartwarming, and I hope that most relationships stand the test of time. There is definitely a 'scene' for all age groups.

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Reged: 05/19/05 Posts: 2127 Loc: Vientiane Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #8461600 - 12/17/06 02:07 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PEAsaCb-Pw

At long last, a video.

This chic is going to be my assistant, thats my new office.

Degen, that chick's pretty hot, but I think facially I'd give her maybe a 7. What you you rate her on the Thai 1-10 scale? I should admit that I'm not really into Asian girls that much and think the Japanese are the hottest.

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: WhoIam] #8462074 - 12/17/06 03:00 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Glad to see my video got some discussion going, I'll post some more shortly (already got them made, just have to put them on YouTube).

I'll respond to the questions tomorrow (3am for me now), but wanted to pop back in for a second and let ya'll know about an amazing spot I found tonite.

Ratchida (prolly butchered that spelling, but its a street) Soi 5. Two clubs I went to, both amazing.

First was called Inch. Standard Ratchida/RCA fare with all young thai college students and minimal farang...but the same problem with all of the rest of Ratchida/RCA with no dance floor because of all the damned shy thai people. Interior, music and lighting were amazing though and I'd have to say this is one of my new favorite spots to chill in Bangkok.

After that went to what is, for tonite at least, what I think is the best club anywhere. Previously Bed Supper Club (in Bangkok) was my favorite club in the world, but now I'd have to say its the club directly to the left of Inch called some weird Thai name, King Tree Lan I beleive.

I saw one white dude in there, one LadyBody and about 400 thai dudes and 1200 thai women. They have a HUGE dancefloor (first time i've ever seen that in an all thai club). The dance floor is made up of squares of blue glass about 2' x 2' and below them are large sprinklers and flourescent lights. It gives the impression of dancing on the water. I've never seen anything like that. Above you are tons of green strobe lights, it was seriously like something out of Studio 54. The club has only been open 2 weeks and is off the [censored] hook.

The only bad beat of the night was the fact that I went with my girl, but she's the one who knew about the place so I guess I can't be too mad. I'll go back with my boys tomorrow night and give some love to all of those admiring thai girls who looked so happy to see a white dude in their club.

So ya, next time you are in Bangkok, you'd better make it to Ratchida Soi 5.

Also one last note, I've been getting a crap load of great questions VIA PM. Please, please contribute to this amazing thread and post your question here so that others may benefit from reading the answers, and also so you may benefit from people other than me answering your questions.

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Reged: 12/10/05 Posts: 6184 Loc: actually grinding now Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #8462241 - 12/17/06 03:16 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

sounds sick but you said "give some love to all of those admiring thai girls who looked so happy to see a white dude in their club"...

wtf man im brown im screwed

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Reged: 07/16/03 Posts: 1148 Loc: Andy B. '08 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: firedogpete] #8466533 - 12/17/06 09:40 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: I'll join others in thanking you for starting a fascinating discussion.

One thing you haven't discussed much...what is the scene like for older folks, those of us in the late 30s-early 50s? Is there much chance for us with the college kids? How about Thai women who are a bit older. Younger than 18 has zero appeal, in fact I think it's gross and terrible in a number of ways, but a college-oriented female is different (and to some degree, the older the better). And if the college scene is no good, what are the other options?

Is age an automatic turn-off for decent and attractive Thai women as described above?

Btw I've visited Thailand briefly and it is an impressively beautiful country in many ways. In fact I stayed at a country home for a few days made of pure teakwood (this house was on stilts)...it was a very relaxing and fascinating few days. I did pick up a few words and didn't really think the language all that challenging, so if I could give you something back for this great thread I'd strongly suggest you study the language more seriously...I'm sure you'd appreciate the benefits.

Your age shouldn't be a hindrance at all to finding someone you find attractive.

You have to realize that something like $300/month is a GOOD paying job over here. There are people that literally make 100 baht for working out in a rice field all day. These women are going to see u as being able to take them out of that life, provide a better life for your kids than what they have... All the while, getting a guy that probably has a bigger dong than some asian guy. In addition, they look forward to having little halfies with you as well.. We all know how hot half asian girls are, etc... Overall, its just such an attractive option for them to meet a farang for a lot of reasons.. BTW, it helps to have blue eyes.

One funny thing about Thai culture.. They are not afraid to tell you that you're fat... I was hanging out in my neighborhood, and I axed this chubby girl if she had a boy friend... Another girl interrupted and said "No, she's TOO FAT!!"

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Reged: 07/16/03 Posts: 1148 Loc: Andy B. '08 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: WhoIam] #8466569 - 12/17/06 09:42 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote:

Quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PEAsaCb-Pw

At long last, a video.

This chic is going to be my assistant, thats my new office.

Degen, that chick's pretty hot, but I think facially I'd give her maybe a 7. What you you rate her on the Thai 1-10 scale? I should admit that I'm not really into Asian girls that much and think the Japanese are the hottest.

She was pretty for a Thai, but I would say about a 7.

Guys, you have to realize, that when you come over here, you're basically going to have the options of a pro athlete in the states.

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Reged: 08/07/06 Posts: 25 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: southerndog] #8466888 - 12/17/06 10:03 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Someone: Where do you have to go to find good surf? What's the easiest way to reserve somewhere to stay before you go? What's typical rent for a fairly nice 2bed 2bath apartment? Where can I find info on the full moon party? Thanks

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Reged: 02/27/06 Posts: 627 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Aramail] #8467226 - 12/17/06 10:24 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

What's the easiest way to reserve somewhere to stay before you go?

Call them?

What's typical rent for a fairly nice 2bed 2bath apartment?

Depends on so many things. But Id say 25-35,000 baht ($650-850)

Where can I find info on the full moon party? fullmoonparty-thailand.com/schedules.html

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Quote:

Guys, you have to realize, that when you come over here, you're basically going to have the options of a pro athlete in the states.

spot on

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Quote: sounds sick but you said "give some love to all of those admiring thai girls who looked so happy to see a white dude in their club"...

wtf man im brown im screwed

indian dudes actually get a lot of play over here. there are tons of indian owned businesses and thai women see indians as rich. unfortunately you are likely a step down from a white dude, but still many notches above the average thai guy

sucks to be a poor thai dude doesn't it?

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: firedogpete] #8468562 - 12/18/06 12:09 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: what is the scene like for older folks, those of us in the late 30s-early 50s? Is there much chance for us with the college kids? How about Thai women who are a bit older. Younger than 18 has zero appeal, in fact I think it's gross and terrible in a number of ways, but a college-oriented female is different (and to some degree, the older the better). And if the college scene is

no good, what are the other options?

as KKF so graciously put it earlier in the thread, some thai girls prefer older men because they don't want to [censored] 30 times a day.

it is very common to see old guys (many morbidly obese) walking around with extremely young and attractive thai women.

you've got to remember that it is all about the money here, nothing more. if you have it, you can have an unlimited number of girlfriends, wives, kik's and mia noi's. if you don't, you cannot. doesn't matter how good looking you are, if you are broke, you'd better find a rich thai girl who has spent a great deal of time abroad or you'll be sleeping alone.

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Is age an automatic turn-off for decent and attractive Thai women as described above?

see above: no. they older and less attractive you are and the more respectable she is, she might do things that offend you like walk behind you on the street or want you to enter her apartment building after she does etc. this is all about saving face and has little to do with the way she feel's about you.

Quote: I'd strongly suggest you study the language more seriously

Pom pud thai dee! Chok dee krab! krab kun krab pom

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Quote: indian dudes actually get a lot of play over here. there are tons of indian owned businesses and thai women see indians as rich.

This guy I know from Pakistan said he didn't want to leave Thailand and he said many of his friends (also from Pakistan) haven't left for the last 5 years. Also, he wasn't rich by western standards (he finished school and worked there for a Thai company). Therefore, I can only infer brown guys do just fine.

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Quote: indian dudes actually get a lot of play over here. there are tons of indian owned businesses and thai women see indians as rich.

This guy I know from Pakistan said he didn't want to leave Thailand and he said many of his friends (also from Pakistan) haven't left for the last 5 years. Also, he wasn't rich by western standards (he finished school and worked there for a Thai company). Therefore, I can only infer brown guys do just fine.

Anybody with money does just fine. I'm sure Thai dudes who make $3,000 per month get tons of ass too. There just aren't that many of them and there are lots and lots and lots and lots of young, hot thai women. Supply and demand

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Quote: Guys, you have to realize, that when you come over here, you're basically going to have the options of a pro athlete in the states.

Wow, talk about setting people up for a rude awakening.

Your comment applies to:

1. Good looking farang who are good at communicating with women. Basically, guys with tons of options in their home countries.

2. Guys who go to Soi Cowboy with 2,000 baht.

When I'm out it's very, very rare that I'm not the only farang with a Thai girl that isn't a bar girl/prostitute. And I'm sure it's rarer to see another farang/Thai couple where the farang isn't expected to pay for everything.

The notion that anyone can come here and have beautiful ass thrown at him like he's Dwayne Wade is preposterous.

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Quote:

Quote: Guys, you have to realize, that when you come over here, you're basically going to have the options of a pro athlete in the states.

Wow, talk about setting people up for a rude awakening.

Your comment applies to:

1. Good looking farang who are good at communicating with women. Basically, guys with tons of options in their home countries.

2. Guys who go to Soi Cowboy with 2,000 baht.

When I'm out it's very, very rare that I'm not the only farang with a Thai girl that isn't a bar girl/prostitute. And I'm sure it's rarer to see another farang/Thai couple where the farang isn't expected to pay for everything.

The notion that anyone can come here and have beautiful ass thrown at him like he's Dwayne Wade is preposterous.

Dude, I'm 30 years old, a little fat, and losing my hair, and I could [censored] pretty much anything I want.

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Did anybody ever go to party at Mystic while they were still open? I always thought it was the nicest club in Bangkok.

Quote: Pom pud thai dee! Chok dee krab! krab kun krab pom

lol. you mean 'pud GENG' not 'pud dee'

Goto pantip and buy the 'rosetta stone thai level 1' software. You will pickup several hundred words very quickly. I love buying $300 software for $2

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Wow, I just spent some time getting caught up with this thread and I'm ready to move the minute school ends.

Is your office help a go-go dancer also or something? Secretary with benefits? I thought the video was hilarious when considering shes an employee.

I definitely want to see more videos, but can you also post some pictures of the insane apartment you guys get for 35k? Is that ~$1100 US? Also post some pictures of food. Seriously, once you get fast internet set up pleaaaase just give us a pictures barrage, living vicariously through stories only is tough.

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"The notion that anyone can come here and have beautiful ass thrown at him like he's Dwayne Wade is preposterous."

This is true. They are very passive. You have to ask them to come back to your house and teach you to speak thai. Then you bang them.

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degen,

what about if im with a bunch of white dudes and obviously speak like an american? do i move up the scale a little?

also, uston, its obvious that degen is exaggerating a little, but i do think guys from here will do much better in thailand like he says.

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Uston] #8469332 - 12/18/06 01:25 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote:

Your comment applies to:

1. Good looking farang who are good at communicating with women. Basically, guys with tons of options in their home countries.

Good looking? I'm 5'10 and 230 pounds. I'm no candidate for gastric bypass surgery but definately fit the bill for a good six months of working out and getting my sloppy ass in shape.

Here is a recent picture of me (I'm all the way on the left)

I lived in Vegas for a few months over the summer and until I came back to Thailand and had next to zero luck with the ladies. I've been back in Thailand less than two months and have a Group in my cell called Toys that has 20 numbers in it. At least 12 of them I could call and hang out with on any night of the week, the other 8 I'm cultivating/are new.

The ability to talk to women is needed. Speaking a little Thai is very helpful. You do not need 'game' in the American sense, just a bit of knowledge about how to speak to a Thai woman and smile, not much more.

Even Dwayne Wade himself (or the Thai equivalent) wouldn't have ass 'thrown' at him here. Thai women are far too passive. What he said was you'd have the 'options' of a pro athlete. Meaning you can go up to just about any beautiful Thai woman you see in a club and talk to her and likely get her phone number and then likely take her on a date and then likely run up inside her at some point, as long as you are nice and respectful and pay for everything.

Quote: When I'm out it's very, very rare that I'm not the only farang with a Thai girl that isn't a bar girl/prostitute.

You are hanging out at the wrong spots if you desire to see farang with thai girls who are not whores, though i really don't care either way. I'd prefer to be one of the only farang period when I go out.

Also PM me if you want to come to the home game

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Quote: "The notion that anyone can come here and have beautiful ass thrown at him like he's Dwayne Wade is preposterous."

This is true. They are very passive. You have to ask them to come back to your house and teach you to speak thai. Then you bang them.

lol beat me to it

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Quote: also, uston, its obvious that degen is exaggerating a little, but i do think guys from here will do much better in thailand like he says.

Absolutely agree. That's not even open for debate. I just think that being here for awhile and having experience with the way of life here is being vastly underrated in this thread.

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Quote: degen,

what about if im with a bunch of white dudes and obviously speak like an american? do i move up the scale a little?

I think you have a serious case of IWIWWC

I Wish I Were White Complex

You are already confident with women, you'll do fine. If you were scared to talk to them then you'd have to work on that but you are not...I gaurantee you you will bang at least 5 chics in your first month of being here (unless of course you make the classic rookie mistake of shacking up with one after you've been here a week )

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Quote: being here for awhile and having experience with the way of life here is being vastly underrated in this thread.

Agreed. I can't help what the people ask for.

I will say that thai women make up about 25% of what makes me so infatuated with this country. Seriously.

25% being how rediculously cheap it is to live like a millionaire in the US.

the rest being the Thai people in general, so nice and serving and just generally [censored] awesome. amazing islands that i prefer to hawaii and which are definately comparable (minus the surfing). food pwn's american, amazing shopping.

nightlife that beats Vegas IMO. vegas might have nice huge clubs but having to wait in line for 2 hours and spend $400 for a bottle lessens the fun of it. clubs here are pretty dope and a night out will cost an absolute maximum of $100 (bottle service, buying rounds etc).

etc. thailand pwns

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Thought this was pretty funny. This chic is pissed off her boyfriend left her and went to Thailand to bang other chics, the first response is mine, the second hers:

Quote: Tootie,

When I started this thread I thought there was a chance it would end my love for Asian women. Thanks to you, it has only strengthened it, and made me remember just why I swore off white women. Thank you. Seriously.

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You are welcome. I don't give a sh*t anymore.

I now, officially, have a BAD attitude.

Not towards men in general. Not towards Canadian men.

Towards the f*ckers on the forum, who think it's cool to piss away their lives being the big men on campus in a third world country.

Who think it's cool to have sex with 18 year-olds.

That's f*cked up by the way, I don't care what lame-a*s excuses you give me. I mean, would you f*ck your own daughter? Would you f*ck your daughter's best friend?

Who think it's cool to disregard my comments just because I'm female. I might as well have been doing origami this whole time... it would have had the same effect. Nobody reads what I post, and nobody gives a sh*t. When you all read my posts, you're thinking "oh, here's that closet-dyke Tootie... all frustrated and bitter... that man-hater... what f*cked-up thing does she have to say now".

Well, you know what, you're all f*cked up.

And you know what... I am known as a happy go lucky person in my regular life... I smile, I am giggly, I am cheery. I don't hate men... I f*cking LOVE men.

I come off as a bitch here because I am responding to assinine comments all the time.

You are smart, possibly some geniuses, but you are so stubborn, and you have your heads so far up your arrogant asses...

I have sworn off xxxx forever. You can all kiss my a*s.

almost makes me want to go back to america...

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i have been here a week. i'm 34 and also could probably lose about 20 pounds. it has been so easy to meet regular girls, i can't even believe it. i think the key is to meet the girl during the day. it doesn't matter where. the mall, the train, in anywhere. for example i got 2 numbers at the airport. meet them during the day, get a number and invite them for drinks later. the other day, i hooked up with a girl who is friends with a girl my buddy is hanging out with. i knew her for about 2 hours before she came back to my buddy's house with me. next night she wanted to go out again. i asked her where i can exchange money because i was out of baht and she said don't worry about it, no problem. she happily paid for the whole night. taxi, drinks, pool. how often does that happen in the states??

honestly, the only problem i've had is the girls never want to leave. they want to hang out all the time. i'm even honest with the girls and say i'm on vacation and not looking to spend my entire vacation hanging out with a girl i just met. my friend just came in here while i'm typing this to complain that one of the chicks keeps calling his phone looking for me. good thing i don't have a phone here. i just give his number.

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: mj2] #8483870 - 12/19/06 02:41 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Mike you can take this a step further and tell them you have a girlfriend and are just looking for a 'kik'. Don't tell this to girls you already know, but to new ones. I've found that if you are very honest from the start they are totally fine with this. What pisses them off is being lied to. It is very common for rich thai dudes to have many kik's and mia noi's (roughly translates to 'friends with benefits and mistresses). They are much much much more ok with this than in the states.

Disagree with having to meet them during the day, you can meet them anytime.

I went back to Soi 5 last night and got the number of who I thought was the hottest girl in the club. My new play is to not speak with or talk to any girl in the place until I find what I consider the hottest one. Because I am white they saw me, for sure. If I am all over 10 other chics this turns them off, if I am playing it cool I think it at least leaves the door open. So I'm standing there with my boys dancing and she finally makes her way past me, I reach out and lightly touch her elbow and she turns to me:

Me: 'hi' D Cups: 'hi'  Me: 'whats your name' D Cups:  'Suwan' (i couldn't understand this but its what she typed into my phone) Me: 'i'm bill' D Cups:  Me: 'do you live in bangkok?' D Cups: 'yes, where are you from?' Me:  D Cups: Me: 'I have to get back to my friends, but i want to call you' D Cups:  Me:  D Cups:  Me: 'i little kiss' D Cups: 

And thats it. Damned near every number I've gotten goes down just like that...that gentlemen is game in Thailand. Its [censored] easy as pie.

Got another number of this hot ass 21 year old Bangkok University student in the Taxi stand as well.

Biggest problem really is having time for the follow up.

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Reged: 02/27/06 Posts: 627 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #8484181 - 12/19/06 03:18 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: Biggest problem really is having time for the follow up.

Its a hard life

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Reged: 05/20/04 Posts: 19121 Loc: San Diego Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #8484317 - 12/19/06 03:37 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote:

I recognize that guy in the middle. He sucks.

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Sponger.] #8484469 - 12/19/06 04:04 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

heh ya he was one of the ones who ran the home game above the 6-pack shop in IV. Zack is definately an acquired taste, i didn't like him at first either.

Uston actually sent me a PM saying he thought he saw us on the BTS cuz he recognized zack from his bathtub pic earlier in the thread.

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Reged: 02/27/06 Posts: 627 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #8484605 - 12/19/06 04:38 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Ditch the white girl

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you are probably right about being able to meet them anytime, not just during the day. i just haven't really tried yet because i have had something already lined up almost every night here so far.

you are also right about being patient. my friend has the worst problem with this. every time, he goes for the first hot chick he sees. then he ends up hanging with her the whole night usually getting nothing at the end of the night. i tell him he needs to be patient and just wait. you might see something hotter and if not, you can just talk to that girl later. what especially sucks about this, is that i then get stuck having to hangout with the friend of the girl he likes. 3 nights in a row, instead of picking out who i want, i have been the good buddy and hooked up with the friend of the girl he wants. the rest of the week, i'm getting what I WANT. he is on his own if he is going to just grab the first chick he thinks is hot.

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I called D-Cups earlier today and some message played. I thought she had given me a fake number (would have been the first time). I got a call back at 9pm from her and was amazed, guess her battery died and she saw the missed call.

I was suprised that she speaks damned near fluent english. We're going out Thursday.

I swear the chic is a 9.5/10. I'll try hard to get some pic's.

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Reged: 12/23/06 Posts: 258 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #8532484 - 12/23/06 03:48 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

yo sup all

I went backpacking through SE Asia with some friends, long story short one of em gets sucked into a relationship with gold digger. He is now living in Cambodia and is more than 5k in debt (~2k to me) which kinda sucks

How does this happen? Well, one particular Cambodian attempted it on me, and I blogged it to myself. thought it might be worth sharing now to warn you young white dudes of dangers of this type of thing. And if that doesn't work, maybe it'll entertain you guys

It all takes place in Cambodia, but from what I hear, it happens all the time in Thailand too

oh yeah i have one post cause I banned myself from OOT a while ago (got NT to do it)

This happened like 5 months ago to me. obv warning it's VERY long

It all begins when I'm back at the guesthouse, unwinding from my day of firing guns (linky). I decide to have a few beers to unwind. A few joints were passed around, I partook. My traveling buddy Mik bursts in on the scene and says "Hey Jim you wanna come out with me and those two Cambodian chicks?" He'd been chatting up this Cambodian milf, and the milf had a younger, do-able, sister. Mik said they are both barmaids who make $100 per month (which is a lot here) up in Siem Riep, and they come down here every other week.

I reasoned as best I could, and went with a no. I was with some other people who were planning on going to the "Heart of Darkness" which was supposed to be a crazy club run by some transvestite or something. Mik says that's cool and leaves. Then he comes back about 5 mins later and says "Her sister really wants you to come out with us." I look at Martin (who'd been getting drunk and stoned along with the rest of the table), he says to me "Nectar of the gods? Or, nectar of the gods?", I shrug my shoulders and take off.

We hire two dudes with motorcycles for $5 each to take us around all night. I think that was overpriced, $2-$3 sounded right, but whatever. I was experiencing bliss, I was nicely toasted, sitting on the back of a motorcycle with an 18 year old Cambodian (3 people on the bike including the driver) headed to party. I have a thing for asian chicks, and for asian chicks on motorcycles.

As our bike, and Mik + milf's bike, would get near each other the girls would speak in Cambodian, and me and Mik would just stare at each other and break out into schoolgirl laughter. The girls took us to all kinds of clubs where we would all drink some more and cut up the dance floor. They even took us to some clubs that were clearly hooker bars, which was a bit weird. Like, most clubs and bars have varying degrees of hookers in them, but these were towards the end of the hooker spectrum. I also noticed when we went to clubs where there were other white people, BoarEye (my chick) seemed to get possessive of me, allowing no other type of dancing besides close bump and grindage with her, I obliged.

We get home at 2 or 3am, then Ali (milf) and BoarEye go to their room at the guesthouse to get some sleeping clothes or something, and I notice there is like a whole family in their. Two older women, in their 40's maybe, and 2 or 3 kids, all sharing a $4 hostel room made for 2 people. I didn't think much of it, I was thinking more about sex at this point, and how tired I was. I let Mik and Ali have our room, and I go get a new room for me and BoarEye. By the time we get back to our room, I'm totally exhausted and still drunk. I've had an eventful previous week and I'm quite short on sleep. I think to myself 'fugit, I'm too tired right now, we can go to sleep now and have sex in the morning.' She seemed pretty tired too, so I say "You tired? I tired. We sleep?" she seems to understand so we sleep.

She seemed to want me to hold her, and I wanted to hold her, I held her. I haven't been in a serious relationship in ~2 years, and the feeling of intimacy sort of overwhelmed me. We were doing all the luvy duvy caressing and holding and stuff. It was like we could feel how the other was feeling the whole time. Could this end up being a one night intimacy-stand? weird

In the morning, she instigates some fooling around. I eat some vag, I'm quite the fan of that, and finger her a little, but she seemed kind of non responsive. The thought suddenly hit me that hey, maybe 18 is too young, maybe she's too innocent (sexually inexperienced). I don't want to take advantage of a mind not fully developed, so I do the decent thing and just let her give me a handjob. I guide her for 5 pumps so she does it how I like it, and all is well, until midway through Ali knocks on the door. BoarEye then gets up and goes downstairs. Bummer.

About 20 mins later BoarEye and Ali both burst in the door whirlwind style and jump on my bed, somewhere in the confusion BoarEye is feeling up my crotch from the out side of my shorts, and grabbing handfuls of [censored] and balls at will while smiling mischievously at me. Then Ali's son bursts in (he looks like 5 years old or so) and starts playing with Ali, the whole family is hyper. They're giggling constantly, hitting each other with pillows, jumping on each other etc. Meanwhile this has not stopped BoarEye from grabbing more handfuls.

Ali then says "you want to go swimming?" That sounded awesome, cause it's like really hot in SE Asia so I say sure. Eventually everyone dissipates from the room to get ready.

While in preparation, Ali asks me "you like my sister?" I say yeah, and she jumps up and down on the spot screaming a little in excitement. ok...

The four of us get a tuk tuk and head off. We arrive at what I thought was a very peaceful and tranquil lake. There were these docks built all over the place where you can go out on, order some food, and have a pleasant picnic. The whole time Mik and Ali are doing revolting luvy duvy sh!t, while BoarEye seems to be giving me an ice cold shoulder. Whatever, I'll just try to enjoy myself. The four of us go swimming, hire a guy to take us around the lake in a canoe, swim some more, then eat a giant meal. All kinds of weird stuff like squid jerky and random seafood. The bill for it all in the end was ~280,000 Reil, which was basically robbery. You can buy a meal at a food stall here in Cambodia for ~500 Reil. Whatever I didn't care, it was 1/6 of a buy-in. The whole way back though Ali was sporadically screaming at the top of her lungs in anger. At one point she screamed "[censored] ALL CAMBODIANS!!!!!!" Also on the ride back she says to Mik seemingly out of the blue "You have other girlfriend? My uncle in police. If you have other girlfriend my uncle boxing you."

Maybe these bitches be crazy.

We go to a carnival on the way back which was pretty cool. These girls were addicted to that dart game where you have to hit three balloons in succession with three darts to win a teddy bear. It was actually a little scary how much they liked it. When they threw the darts they looked a little too aggressive and vicious for my liking. While there we did some rollerblading. I'm like yeah I'm awesome at this, I fukin lived in Canada for 3 years where I ice skated all day, I got this. About 20 seconds after I begin, I go over this ramp thing, totally lose it, and hit my tail bone so hard I was convinced it was broken. For a minute all I could do was just lay on the ground motionless, meanwhile there was a huge Cambodian crowd staring at us (we were the only two white guys out of like 1000's of Cambodians at the carnival) who erupted in cheering and laughter. har har. Fukers.

We get back to the hostel, and BoarEye comes with me to 'our' room. She says "you angry me." I say, "no, I no angry you. You angry me?" she says no. She looks all like sad and depressed, probably trying to manipulate me into telling her over and over again I do like her, it works. I can't remember if we fooled around at this point, but in any case Ali comes by and wants to go to the hairdresser with BoarEye. Then BoarEye asks me for some money for the hairdresser, wtf? I'm her boyfriend now or something? Whatever, I kinda want to ride this thing out cause it's like weird. Over the past few weeks I've grown to crave weird situations. I give her some cash and I'm left in piece to read my sci-fi book I've been stuck into (The Foundation Series by Isaac Asimov, I like it a lot).

I went to the net cafe for a bit, came back, and ran into BoarEye. With her new hair I thought she was Ali for a minute, which was awkward. Even after she grabbed my ass I wasn't sure she was BoarEye. So we go back to our room, and she says "what you want do tonight?" I say "I dunno, I'll do what you want to do" she says "No. what you want do tonight?" I ponder, and say "Rest here? I'm kinda tired, and feel a bit sick" she looks all sad and says "ok." I say "you want to go out tonight?" she pins me down in a cowgirl position, looks me in the eye and says "you want to stay here or go?" This goes back and forth more.

Basically, she would never tell me what she wanted to do. She would only say she wanted to do whatever it is I wanted to do. So I'm like fugit, I don't feel 100%, and I wanna get my read on. I say "You angry me?" she says flatly "No." She goes downstairs, and shortly after Ali comes up and says "you no like my sister?" I assure her I do like her, and after a bit of chit chat, she goes down stairs. Then Mik comes up shortly after and says "wtf dude, why won't you come out with us?" I tell him I'm tired and feel a bit sick, he explains the girls got their hair done pretty much so they could look fly and go out tonight. He guilts me into going out. So clearly BoarEye got Ali to get Mik to get me to go out, instead of BoarEye just telling me she wanted to go out. After I tell BoarEye we are going out she gets all super happy and excited and says "You make me so angry when you say you no go out!!!"

We hire out a tuk tuk for the night, and begin another night of clubbing. Ali looked a bit like Alicia Keys with her new hairdo. BoarEye looked a bit like a hooker. I basically just sit at tables as the three others go between sitting with me and dancing. I feel too sick to stand up for too long. At one club, BoarEye sits next to me, reaches up my shorts, and starts giving me a handjob. She had that mischievous smile again, staring me in the eye. She would alternate between actually giving me a handjob, teasing me, and squeezing hard on the [censored]. This seemed to amuse her. Then Ali says something in Cambodian and they and Mik take off to dance some more. I'm left on the couch, almost in fetal position, lightly and uncontrollably shaking for the next 5 minutes, feeling slightly cold. That was too much stimulus for me to handle in my current exhausted and slightly ill state.

Eventually we end up in a private karaoke room. This was pretty cool, there were like 3 different girls there working just for us, getting us food and drinks, setting up the next song. We even had our own shower. BoarEye and Ali do some Cambodian karaoke, which I found quite beautiful. It was probably a hybrid of western pop and traditional Cambodian music or something. Then they switch it to play musics videos, and the girls break out into freaky sexy dancing. I'm still not good enough to stand, so I'm just laying on the couch. The girls freaky dance with each other, they bring in a few girl workers and dance with them a bit. Ali gives me a lap dance while BoarEye gives Mik a lap dance, apparently the game between the girls was to try and make the other one more jealous. Then, Black Eyed Peas "Lady Lumps" video comes one. I love that video. While watching it, BoarEye jumps from the table (where she was dancing) straight to the couch, and goes straight to cowgirl position, dryhumping/dancing with me while the video is playing. She has a very short miniskirt, and is not wearing any underwear. I have a solid view of the TV still, and my eyes are constantly darting back and forth from the TV to her. This ranks high on my list for most pleasurable experiences endured.

This winds down, we hit up a few more clubs, I actually start feeling good enough to dance some. Me and BoarEye take off for home and leave the other two.

While coming back to the guesthouse, we walk past a group of drunk white guys screaming things like "You weren't there man!!" and "He fukin stabbed him" near a group of Cambodians. Apparently a Cambodian stole a drunk guys money and passport (probably all contained in a money belt), so the drunk guy chased after him, hit him and took it back. The drunk white guy turns his back and walks away, and gets stabbed in the back. Walking up to my room I bump into him rummaging through his stuff to find some alcohol. His speech is quite slurred, BoarEye and I get to see the stab wound close up. stabbed guy's friend is helping him, and as they take off to find a hospital stabbed guy's friend says, like he's on the verge of tears, "you know it's our responsibility to educate these people. We should be educating these people so sh!t like this doesn't happen."

Shortly after we hear a shot fired. Apparently one shot is not necessarily a big deal, it might have just been a 'courtesy shot', where a Cambodian shoots a warning bullet at the sky as if to say "I am armed and you are not. Please act accordingly."

We get back to our room, and she's in all out freaky mode. I eat some vag, have sex, short break. There's some pillow talk where she asks how many girlfriends I've had, I say 4 and she's like "FOUR GIRLFRIENDS??? you have girlfriend in Thailand? You have Vietnam girlfriend??" I try my best to explain to her that 4 is not a lot over 9 years, and that I have no girlfriend right now. She claims to have had only 1 boyfriend. Eventually she calms down and says "I want to say you something." I say sure go ahead, she says "no, I'm too shy, I tell you tomorrow." I try to get her to tell me, she won't. I start eating some more vag in preparation for round 2, then all of a sudden Ali is banging at the door screaming something in Cambodian.

Ali is banging at the door, BoarEye shouts something back, a short conversation ensues, then BoarEye gets up and throws her clothes on. She says "you pretend sleep". Ok. She opens the door and Ali starts hysterically saying some more Cambodian, starts to cry, and cradling her eyes gets on the bed next to me and cries some more. All I'm wearing is my socks and a condom, so BoarEye tosses me my shorts to put on. I then hug Ali to sleep since that's what they do in the sitcoms. Mik also comes in, right after Ali did, with a very distressed "wtf?" look on his face.

Apparently Mik talked to another girl at a club. According to Mik, she asked him a question, so he answered it. Cambodian women are very jealous.

So through the tears Ali's saying incoherent things about Mik and girls while lying on my bed next to me, and I'm hugging her. BoarEye is on the other side of Ali, also lying on the bed. Mik is sitting on the floor, and this is all in a very cozy hostel room.

Eventually Ali falls asleep, so Ali and BoarEye stay in that room, while me and Mik go back to our original room.

I'm a little perturbed at this point, coming to the realization these girls seem to think we are already in a long term relationship. I lay awake at 4am pondering my options. I can't pull a runner since my money and passport are in the other room.

Also, I forgot exactly when, but we had all planned to go up to Siem Riep the next morning together. Who knows what's gonna happen now. I was actually hoping Ali would still be pissed at Mik, so I could get a clean break from BoarEye.

As I'm contemplating, I notice the silhouette of Martin walk past the window. I chase him down to let him know a dude got stabbed just out front, and he probably shouldn't wander too far from the hostel at the moment. He tells me he heard about it already. We catch each other up on the last few days. He warns me about Cambodian women. In this book he was reading he says it only costs a few hundred american dollars to get a person killed in this country, and that Cambodian women can get very jealous. He also tells me of a story where this white guy was having break up sex with his Cambodian girlfriend, and in the middle of the night the women stabs him. Around about this point, fleeing the country becomes my plan B.

BoarEye interrupts our conversation, apparently she's not sleepy either. She sits with us, eating some fries. Later, Martin tells me she was probably keeping an eye on me in a protective way.

So me and Martin agree to have a 9am emergency meeting with Mik to decide what we are going to do, since the bus for Siem Riep leaves at midday. I crash at 5 or 6am.

I awake at 8am by a whirlwind of Ali and BoarEye bursting through the door. Ali goes straight to Mik, starts slapping him incredibly hard on the ass and screams "you MAKE me SO, ANGRY, last NIGHT" (capitalization coincides with ass slapping)

BoarEye jumps straight into bed with me, and cuddles me back to sleep. So much for the emergency meeting. Martin walks in at 9am, sees the four of us, and is like "oh..." then walks out.

So the 5 of us take the 6 hour bus ride to Siem Riep. While loading, I whisper to Martin "Dude, what's her name again?" while pointing to BoarEye. I'm pretty bad with names. Martin advises "Just image a pig, right? Imagine a pig just fukin devouring a human eye. BoarEye!" It worked, I remembered her name from then on. See, BoarEye is just a phonetic spelling, Cambodians have their own characters for their language.

The guy who got stabbed was on the bus, stitched up already and joking about it. During the ride, BoarEye switched back to super cold to me. I got a chance to chat with Martin, and he says I need to end this if there's no chance of a long term relationship. I ponder. You know, maybe I'll stick around Cambodia for a month, get good at firing AK's and rocket launchers, get good at driving tanks, become a badass in general. Martin had already discussed this idea with me. Become a ninja with all these weapons so to speak, then go to China and learn Kung Fu, then go to Tibet and be a monk for a month. It sounded cool.

But I knew deep down after the month was up I was leaving Cambodia, hence there was no chance of a long term relationship. I wasn't gonna live here for the rest of my life for her, even if I did love her, I have ambitions in life that require me to be elsewhere. But since she wasn't talking to me at all right now, I figured I'd just wait until that night. We got to Siem Riep, checked in, then headed out for a few drinks. A flash of brilliance hits me, I turn to Martin and say "you know, if you hit that (referring to BoarEye), that would work out best for me. If fact I would view that as a favour." He finds it strange that not a few hours ago I was talking about how maybe I love her, now I want him to hit it. meh.

He then concocts a plan: "Check this out right, we get drunk, I take her back to my room, start fukin her, then you sneak in with your camera and turn the lights on. I quickly jump out of bed and pose with my erect penis (while smiling, he holds his fists to his hips to show me what he means) while you take a picture of me and her naked"

"In fact, I could quickly throw on a shirt that says in big letters across the front, 'SUP' "

And the weird thing is BoarEye and Martin are flirting all night long, while BoarEye won't even acknowledge my existence. I just lay back thinking to myself "you know, this all might just work itself out!"

It didn't though, BoarEye ended up coming back to 'our' room. I walk in, lay down, turn on the TV, and BoarEye's back into freaky mode. She runs over, jumps on my bed and almost immediately goes into cowgirl position and starts talking sexy like to me with that mischievous smile. At this point I was convinced she is basically a high priced hooker. I pay for her stuff during the day, she sexes me during the night. I had been thinking this for the past day or so, and I've been in deep philosophical thought over the 'prostitution grey area'.

So I say "uh, I don't think you like me." she says "What? you angry me?" I assure her I'm not, then she says "you no like me?"

I should have known better, but I jumped straight into reassuring her how much I like her and I'm not angry at her, because I don't want her to feel bad at all, and it's true. Though this makes it hard for me to 'break up' with her. She simply says "I like you", and since I've said I like her, wtf do I do now? Meanwhile, she's fooling around with my package, and I have a 19 year old Cambodian body laying on top of me trying to get freaky with me. I go over to Martin's room to get a condom since I'm out and come back.

That 60 seconds gives me time to come up with a new plan of attack. I come back and say "I need to say you something. I have to leave in 3 days, and I cannot come back to Cambodia." Now, I had assumed she knew this already, Mik told me they both knew this already, but she reacted like she didn't. She gets this hurt look on her face, and cuddles up to me and appears to be fake crying into my shoulder. I'm ~80% sure it's fake. After a while she says "you can come back to visit later?" I say no I'm never coming back (this was a lie, I might).

She brings on a barrage of questions like "Can you stay longer?" "You come back maybe 1 year?" "Where you go?" "You have girlfriend in Vietnam/Thailand/China/Australia?" etc etc and repeats the same questions over and over.

Eventually I suggest for her own good that we seperate. I explain to her if I stay with her for the next 3 days she will be very sad when I leave, even more sad than if I left now. She says "I cry now I cry later same same." I insist on a separation, then she just says "No" and rolls on top of me. She says "You want me?" I can't say no, so sex ensues.

Then there's some pillow talk. She repeats some more standard questions, I give the same standard answers, then she says "Jim? I want to say you something. Yesterday I too shy to tell you, but I want baby." I'm like, uh, ok, good to know, I guess. She says "You want baby?" I'm like yeah I want a baby some day, maybe when I'm older. She asks me if I want a boy or girl, I say girl I guess, and she gets all happy and excited, saying she does too. Then she says "You give me baby?" And as she asks this, she lifts her body up on top of mine (we were both naked and I had no condom on) and hovers her vag just above my wiener, as if to say "I'm good to go, just say the word!"

I explain to her as carefully as I can I don't want a baby with her. She protests, "Why not? You give me baby, you leave, you come back when I have baby." I explain I cannot come back. She counters, "Okay you give me baby, you no come back no problem, I send you photo." I explain I need to live with my babies. She suggests I give her a baby and I live with her. We go in circles a few times.

She explains to me how she really wants my baby, because I have beautiful skin (white skin) and a beautiful nose (white style of nose). This seems to be common in SE Asia, the lighter the skin the more beautiful the person. In a manner of words I say too bad. She goes on about how she wants a baby like Ali, I sense some jealousy there. Ali's son and baby get a lot of attention and I guess Ali does by association, I'm guessing BoarEye wanted some of that.

She drops the baby talk momentarily to tell me how sad she's gonna be when I leave. She says she'll start drinking and smoking. I'm like "Don't do that, that's bad for you" and she's basically like nope, I'm gonna do it. Then she says "You give me baby or I be very sad." A few protests by me, and she steps it up to "You give me baby or I cry and drink and smoke when you leave." Some more protests from me, I'm trying as best I can to be delicate her.

Then she leans down, puts her mouth near my left ear, and whispers "You give me baby or I kill you."

I startle a little, look her in the eye and try my hardest to give a smile like she's joking with me or something, but there was no way I could hide the fear in my face. She says "You believe me?" I honestly can't remember how I responded to that, I think I said yeah in a barely audible voice. In hindsight, since no attempt on my life was made, it probably wasn't a serious threat.

I don't recall much talk after that, we just sort of lay there. A bit later she starts getting a bit frisky and gives me a handjob. Apparently Cambodians don't like to give blowjobs, since blowjobs are associated with Vietnamese, and Cambodians don't like Vietnamese. Cambodian women also seem to be jealous of Vietnamese skin because it is lighter. The more you know.

So yeah we drift off to sleep, then wake up way too early cause Mik wants to leave at 7am for Ankor Wat.

BoarEye seems to be in not quite cold, but distant mode that day. I stick with Martin (who tells me I shouldn't have hit it last night, pfft) most of the time and we goof off. Martin rides the line of simply pissing the girls off, and pissing them off enough for them to take serious revenge, it was fun. BoarEye teaches me and Martin how to ask some one to "suck my dick", and "eat my vagina". Ankor Wat was ok, it's big.

At some point I talk to Mik and Ali, and I ask Ali to explain to BoarEye that it's best for her if I seperate from her now. Ali takes her aside and has a girl to girl talk. When I come back BoarEye looks very emotional and hurt

Martin and I do our own thing for an hour or two, then we all meet up to go back the the hostel. I go out to a net cafe for an hour or so, come back, and then chat with Mik and Ali in their room. Apparently BoarEye has basically shut herself in her room and is crying. I discover Mik told Ali I don't want to be with BoarEye because I am scared of her, and I think she is crazy. This is apparently what Ali told BoarEye at Ankor Wat. Mik is a n00b at life.

It was true, I was being a bit paranoid, afraid she'd have me wacked, but the main reason I wasn't still boning her at night was because I was afraid she would get too attached to me, even though she knew I was leaving in 3 days.

So I go into her room and she's full on crying. Through the tears she says over and over "You no like me, You scare me (meaning you are scared of me), Ali and your friend say me"

I lie, and tell her I'm not scared of her. I tell her the truth, and tell her I like her. I tell her Ali and Mik are wrong. She just replies "[censored]." Eventually I get the concept across the reason I'm not sleeping with her is because in 3 days she would be even more sad than she is now. She understands, but claims it's just as worse now.

Eventually there's nothing left to be said, so I go back to Ali and Mik to try to set them straight (go along with my half truths). I get my point across to Mik, but I get the feeling Ali doesn't understand me and still thinks the only reason I'm not with BoarEye is because I'm scared of her. Also, the both of them are pressuring me to just sleep with her for the next 3 days. I say that'd be better for me but worse for BoarEye, they disagree, and there's nothing more to be said. In hindsight maybe it was better to keep sleeping with her.

Martin and I go back to a net cafe to play some poker. As midnight strikes I look up at Martin and say "Happy 21st birthday dude." He was deep in thought, and about 10 secs later he replies "oh. thanks" and resumes. We leave when the net cafe shuts.

The next day me and Martin do our thing, and come across the other 3 in the evening when they are on their way out to some clubs. Ali invites us along, but then Mik makes it known he doesn't want Martin to come along. So we split, and me and Martin end up at some rando club filled with varying degrees of hookers. I get sick and throw up in the toilets, and to my pleasant surprise a guy walks into my stall and starts massaging my back while I throw up. I tipped him $2.

The next few days are a bit hazy, but Martin flew out to China, and the rest of us took a bus back to Phnon Phen. On the bus ride back I sit next to BoarEye, and she completely ignores me, even when I directly ask her a question, great. So Mik switches seats with her.

Then near the end of the bus ride she starts getting all freaky again and sits next to me, and I fall under the spell again. That night the four of us go out for some 'happy' pizzas, me and BoarEye go back and have sex, and I tell her I'm leaving tomorrow. In the morning, as I go to say good bye to her, she simple simply smiles and hugs me goodbye. I was totally not expecting that.

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Blog ends here cause I got tired of typing. I'll try to fill in the last bit:

I hang around for like 5 days cause I can only withdraw so much per day from the atm and I need 2k to shoot a tank (see linky). One of those days I wondering around for a net cafe that doesn't have sh!tty comps, and bump into Ali, woops. I can't remember for sure, but I think I just ate dinner with her, told her I was leaving in like a week for China, and left (I may have sexed her again not quite sure). She got me to agree to see her just before I left.

I do the tank a few days later. I go to a Cambodian village in the middle of nowhere for a few days which was pretty cool. I then book a flight out and go to her place to say goodbye, she and my tuk tuk driver friends (who took me to their village) take me to the airport and wave me goodbye.

So yeah, I had planned to go backpacking with Mik for 5 months after this, but he had left with Ali to do Vietnam for a while. We meet up in China, Mik lasts about a month, and caves in and goes back to Cambodia to live with Ali (he had planned to finish our backpacking trip first). So yeah now he's mysteriously got into lots of debt.

I just a few days ago found out Ali actually admitted to Mik she and BoarEye used to hang around the guesthouse just to meet whiteys so they could have like a one or two week fling and get a bit of dough off them (usually the whities would opt to leave em a bit of cash when they left).

It was interesting while it lasted BoarEye

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Fluffytiger is the man!

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Great report, thx

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Quote: Fluffytiger is the man!

That is true, but you're only saying that cause I make you look good in my reports

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thx for the trip report.

traveling to so many different countries in the region- which was you favorite to visit, and which(if any) could you actually see yourself living in?

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region meaning south east asia yeah?

I'd say either Malaysia or Cambodia was my favourite. Cambodia was kinda wild, but Malaysia seem to have some genuinlly nice people. I stayed in Kuan Tan (sp?) breifly and I swear that city has the nicest people I've ever met by far. Totally got rid of any preconcieved notions that may have crept into my mind about Muslims

I can't see myself living anywhere in the world so can't quite answer that question :/

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Quote: Then she leans down, puts her mouth near my left ear, and whispers "You give me baby or I kill you."

No [censored], I have never laughed so hard at anything I've ever read in my life.

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you guys are nuts. degen's secretary is a 10 in my book. yeah, her face isnt perfect but she is cute as hell.

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Quote: yo sup all

I went backpacking through SE Asia with some friends, long story short one of em gets sucked into a relationship with gold digger. He is now living in Cambodia and is more than 5k in debt (~2k to me) which kinda sucks

How does this happen? Well, one particular Cambodian attempted it on me, and I blogged it to myself. thought it might be worth sharing now to warn you young white dudes of dangers of this type of thing. And if that doesn't work, maybe it'll entertain you guys

It all takes place in Cambodia, but from what I hear, it happens all the time in Thailand too

Oh yeah i have one post cause I banned myself from OOT a while ago (got NT to do it)

This happened like 5 months ago to me. obv warning it's VERY long

It all begins when I'm back at the guesthouse, unwinding from my day of firing guns (linky). I decide to have a few beers to unwind. A few joints were passed around, I partook. My traveling buddy Mik bursts in on the scene and says "Hey Jim you wanna come out with me and those two Cambodian chicks?" He'd been chatting up this Cambodian milf, and the milf had a younger, do-able, sister. Mik said they are both barmaids who make $100 per month (which is a lot here) up in Siem Riep, and they come down here every other week.

I reasoned as best I could, and went with a no. I was with some other people who were planning on going to the "Heart of Darkness" which was supposed to be a crazy club run by some transvestite or something. Mik says that's cool and leaves. Then he comes back about 5 mins later and says "Her sister really wants you to come out with us." I look at Martin (who'd been getting drunk and stoned along with the rest of the table), he says to me "Nectar of the gods? Or, nectar of the gods?", I shrug my shoulders and take off.

We hire two dudes with motorcycles for $5 each to take us around all night. I think that was overpriced, $2-$3 sounded right, but whatever. I was experiencing bliss, I was nicely toasted, sitting on the back of a motorcycle with an 18 year old Cambodian (3 people on the bike including the driver) headed to party. I have a thing for asian chicks, and for asian chicks on motorcycles.

As our bike, and Mik + milf's bike, would get near each other the girls would speak in Cambodian, and me and Mik would just stare at each other and break out into schoolgirl laughter. The girls took us to all kinds of clubs where we would all drink some more and cut up the dance floor. They even took us to some clubs that were clearly hooker bars, which was a bit weird. Like, most clubs and bars have varying degrees of hookers in them, but these were towards the end of the hooker spectrum. I also noticed when we went to clubs where there were other white people, BoarEye (my chick) seemed to get possessive of me, allowing no other type of dancing besides close bump and grindage with her, I obliged.

We get home at 2 or 3am, then Ali (milf) and BoarEye go to their room at the guesthouse to get some sleeping clothes or something, and I notice there is like a whole family in their. Two older women, in their 40's maybe, and 2 or 3 kids, all sharing a $4 hostel room made for 2 people. I didn't think much of it, I was thinking more about sex at this point, and how tired I was. I let Mik and Ali have our room, and I go get a new room for me and BoarEye. By the time we get back to our room, I'm totally exhausted and still drunk. I've had an eventful previous week and I'm quite short on sleep. I think to myself 'fugit, I'm too tired right now, we can go to sleep now and have sex in the morning.' She seemed pretty tired too, so I say "You tired? I tired. We sleep?" she seems to understand so we sleep.

She seemed to want me to hold her, and I wanted to hold her, I held her. I haven't been in a serious relationship in ~2 years, and the feeling of intimacy sort of overwhelmed me. We were doing all the luvy duvy caressing and holding and stuff. It was like we could feel how the other was feeling the whole time. Could this end up being a one night intimacy-stand? weird

In the morning, she instigates some fooling around. I eat some vag, I'm quite the fan of that, and finger her a little, but she seemed kind of non responsive. The thought suddenly hit me that hey, maybe 18 is too young, maybe she's too innocent (sexually inexperienced). I don't want to take advantage of a mind not fully developed, so I do the decent thing and just let her give me a handjob. I guide her for 5 pumps so she does it how I like it, and all is well, until midway through Ali knocks on the door. BoarEye then gets up and goes downstairs. Bummer.

About 20 mins later BoarEye and Ali both burst in the door whirlwind style and jump on my bed, somewhere in the confusion BoarEye is feeling up my crotch from the out side of my shorts, and grabbing handfuls of [censored] and balls at will while smiling mischievously at me. Then Ali's son bursts in (he looks like 5 years old or so) and starts playing with Ali, the whole family is hyper. They're giggling constantly, hitting each other with pillows, jumping on each other etc. Meanwhile this has not stopped BoarEye from grabbing more handfuls.

Ali then says "you want to go swimming?" That sounded awesome, cause it's like really hot in SE Asia so I say sure. Eventually everyone dissipates from the room to get ready.

While in preparation, Ali asks me "you like my sister?" I say yeah, and she jumps up and down on the spot screaming a little in excitement. ok...

The four of us get a tuk tuk and head off. We arrive at what I thought was a very peaceful and tranquil lake. There were these docks built all over the place where you can go out on, order some food, and have a pleasant picnic. The whole time Mik and Ali are doing revolting luvy duvy sh!t, while BoarEye seems to be giving me an ice cold shoulder. Whatever, I'll just try to enjoy myself. The four of us go swimming, hire a guy to take us around the lake in a canoe, swim some more, then eat a giant meal. All kinds of weird stuff like squid jerky and random seafood. The bill for it all in the end was ~280,000 Reil, which was basically robbery. You can buy a meal at a food stall here in Cambodia for ~500 Reil. Whatever I didn't care, it was 1/6 of a buy-in. The whole way back though Ali was sporadically screaming at the top of her lungs in anger. At one point she screamed "[censored] ALL CAMBODIANS!!!!!!" Also on the ride back she says to Mik seemingly out of the blue "You have other girlfriend? My uncle in police. If you have other girlfriend my uncle boxing you."

Maybe these bitches be crazy.

We go to a carnival on the way back which was pretty cool. These girls were addicted to that dart game where you have to hit three balloons in succession with three darts to win a teddy bear. It was actually a little scary how much they liked it. When they threw the darts they looked a little too aggressive and vicious for my liking. While there we did some rollerblading. I'm like yeah I'm awesome at this, I fukin lived in Canada for 3 years where I ice skated all day, I got this. About 20 seconds after I begin, I go over this ramp thing, totally lose it, and hit my tail bone so hard I was convinced it was broken. For a minute all I could do was just lay on the ground motionless, meanwhile there was a huge Cambodian crowd staring at us (we were the only two white guys out of like 1000's of Cambodians at the carnival) who erupted in cheering and laughter. har har. Fukers.

We get back to the hostel, and BoarEye comes with me to 'our' room. She says "you angry me." I say, "no, I no angry you. You angry me?" she says no. She looks all like sad and depressed, probably trying to manipulate me into telling her over and over again I do like her, it works. I can't remember if we fooled around at this point, but in any case Ali comes by and wants to go to the hairdresser with BoarEye. Then BoarEye asks me for some money for the hairdresser, wtf? I'm her boyfriend now or something? Whatever, I kinda want to ride this thing out cause it's like weird. Over the past few weeks I've grown to crave weird situations. I give her some cash and I'm left in piece to read my sci-fi book I've been stuck into (The Foundation Series by Isaac Asimov, I like it a lot).

I went to the net cafe for a bit, came back, and ran into BoarEye. With her new hair I thought she was Ali for a minute, which was awkward. Even after she grabbed my ass I wasn't sure she was BoarEye. So we go back to our room, and she says "what you want do tonight?" I say "I dunno, I'll do what you want to do" she says "No. what you want do tonight?" I ponder, and say "Rest here? I'm kinda tired, and feel a bit sick" she looks all sad and says "ok." I say "you want to go out tonight?" she pins me down in a cowgirl position, looks me in the eye and says "you want to stay here or go?" This goes back and forth more.

Basically, she would never tell me what she wanted to do. She would only say she wanted to do whatever it is I wanted to do. So I'm like fugit, I don't feel 100%, and I wanna get my read on. I say "You angry me?" she says flatly "No." She goes downstairs, and shortly after Ali comes up and says "you no like my sister?" I assure her I do like her, and after a bit of chit chat, she goes down stairs. Then Mik comes up shortly after and says "wtf dude, why won't you come out with us?" I tell him I'm tired and feel a bit sick, he explains the girls got their hair done pretty much so they could look fly and go out tonight. He guilts me into going out. So clearly BoarEye got Ali to get Mik to get me to go out, instead of BoarEye just telling me she wanted to go out. After I tell BoarEye we are going out she gets all super happy and excited and says "You make me so angry when you say you no go out!!!"

We hire out a tuk tuk for the night, and begin another night of clubbing. Ali looked a bit like Alicia Keys with her new hairdo. BoarEye looked a bit like a hooker. I basically just sit at tables as the three others go between sitting with me and dancing. I feel too sick to stand up for too long. At one club, BoarEye sits next to me, reaches up my shorts, and starts giving me a handjob. She had that mischievous smile again, staring me in the eye. She would alternate between actually giving me a handjob, teasing me, and squeezing hard on the [censored]. This seemed to amuse her. Then Ali says something in Cambodian and they and Mik take off to dance some more. I'm left on the couch, almost in fetal position, lightly and uncontrollably shaking for the next 5 minutes, feeling slightly cold. That was too much stimulus for me to handle in my current exhausted and slightly ill state.

Eventually we end up in a private karaoke room. This was pretty cool, there were like 3 different girls there working just for us, getting us food and drinks, setting up the next song. We even had our own shower. BoarEye and Ali do some Cambodian karaoke, which I found quite beautiful. It was probably a hybrid of western pop and traditional Cambodian music or something. Then they switch it to play musics videos, and the girls break out into freaky sexy dancing. I'm still not good enough to stand, so I'm just laying on the couch. The girls freaky dance with each other, they bring in a few girl workers and dance with them a bit. Ali gives me a lap dance while BoarEye gives Mik a lap dance, apparently the game between the girls was to try and make the other one more jealous. Then, Black Eyed Peas "Lady Lumps" video comes one. I love that video. While watching it, BoarEye jumps from the table (where she was dancing) straight to the couch, and goes straight to cowgirl position, dryhumping/dancing with me while the video is playing. She has a very short miniskirt, and is not wearing any underwear. I have a solid view of the TV still, and my eyes are constantly darting back and forth from the TV to her. This ranks high on my list for most pleasurable experiences endured.

This winds down, we hit up a few more clubs, I actually start feeling good enough to dance some. Me and BoarEye take off for home and leave the other two.

While coming back to the guesthouse, we walk past a group of drunk white guys screaming things like "You weren't there man!!" and "He fukin stabbed him" near a group of Cambodians. Apparently a Cambodian stole a drunk guys money and passport (probably all contained in a money belt), so the drunk guy chased after him, hit him and took it back. The drunk white guy turns his back and walks away, and gets stabbed in the back. Walking up to my room I bump into him rummaging through his stuff to find some alcohol. His speech is quite slurred, BoarEye and I get to see the stab wound close up. stabbed guy's friend is helping him, and as they take off to find a hospital stabbed guy's friend says, like he's on the verge of tears, "you know it's our responsibility to educate these people. We should be educating these people so sh!t like this doesn't happen."

Shortly after we hear a shot fired. Apparently one shot is not necessarily a big deal, it might have just been a 'courtesy shot', where a Cambodian shoots a warning bullet at the sky as if to say "I am armed and you are not. Please act accordingly."

We get back to our room, and she's in all out freaky mode. I eat some vag, have sex, short break. There's some pillow talk where she asks how many girlfriends I've had, I say 4 and she's like "FOUR GIRLFRIENDS??? you have girlfriend in Thailand? You have Vietnam girlfriend??" I try my best to explain to her that 4 is not a lot over 9 years, and that I have no girlfriend right now. She claims to have had only 1 boyfriend. Eventually she calms down and says "I want to say you something." I say sure go ahead, she says "no, I'm too shy, I tell you tomorrow." I try to get her to tell me, she won't. I start eating some more vag in preparation for round 2, then all of a sudden Ali is banging at the door screaming something in Cambodian.

Ali is banging at the door, BoarEye shouts something back, a short conversation ensues, then BoarEye gets up and throws her clothes on. She says "you pretend sleep". Ok. She opens the door and Ali starts hysterically saying some more Cambodian, starts to cry, and cradling her eyes gets on the bed next to me and cries some more. All I'm wearing is my socks and a condom, so BoarEye tosses me my shorts to put on. I then hug Ali to sleep since that's what they do in the sitcoms. Mik also comes in, right after Ali did, with a very distressed "wtf?" look on his face.

Apparently Mik talked to another girl at a club. According to Mik, she asked him a question, so he answered it. Cambodian women are very jealous.

So through the tears Ali's saying incoherent things about Mik and girls while lying on my bed next to me, and I'm hugging her. BoarEye is on the other side of Ali, also lying on the bed. Mik is sitting on the floor, and this is all in a very cozy hostel room.

Eventually Ali falls asleep, so Ali and BoarEye stay in that room, while me and Mik go back to our original room.

I'm a little perturbed at this point, coming to the realization these girls seem to think we are already in a long term relationship. I lay awake at 4am pondering my options. I can't pull a runner since my money and passport are in the other room.

Also, I forgot exactly when, but we had all planned to go up to Siem Riep the next morning together. Who knows what's gonna happen now. I was actually hoping Ali would still be pissed at Mik, so I could get a clean break from BoarEye.

As I'm contemplating, I notice the silhouette of Martin walk past the window. I chase him down to let him know a dude got stabbed just out front, and he probably shouldn't wander too far from the hostel at the moment. He tells me he heard about it already. We catch each other up on the last few days. He warns me about Cambodian women. In this book he was reading he says it only costs a few hundred american dollars to get a person killed in this country, and that Cambodian women can get very jealous. He also tells me of a story where this white guy was having break up sex with his Cambodian girlfriend, and in the middle of the night the women stabs him. Around about this point, fleeing the country becomes my plan B.

BoarEye interrupts our conversation, apparently she's not sleepy either. She sits with us, eating some fries. Later, Martin tells me she was probably keeping an eye on me in a protective way.

So me and Martin agree to have a 9am emergency meeting with Mik to decide what we are going to do, since the bus for Siem Riep leaves at midday. I crash at 5 or 6am.

I awake at 8am by a whirlwind of Ali and BoarEye bursting through the door. Ali goes straight to Mik, starts slapping him incredibly hard on the ass and screams "you MAKE me SO, ANGRY, last NIGHT" (capitalization coincides with ass slapping)

BoarEye jumps straight into bed with me, and cuddles me back to sleep. So much for the emergency meeting. Martin walks in at 9am, sees the four of us, and is like "oh..." then walks out.

So the 5 of us take the 6 hour bus ride to Siem Riep. While loading, I whisper to Martin "Dude, what's her name again?" while pointing to BoarEye. I'm pretty bad with names. Martin advises "Just image a pig, right? Imagine a pig just fukin devouring a human eye. BoarEye!" It worked, I remembered her name from then on. See, BoarEye is just a phonetic spelling, Cambodians have their own characters for their language.

The guy who got stabbed was on the bus, stitched up already and joking about it. During the ride, BoarEye switched back to super cold to me. I got a chance to chat with Martin, and he says I need to end this if there's no chance of a long term relationship. I ponder. You know, maybe I'll stick around Cambodia for a month, get good at firing AK's and rocket launchers, get good at driving tanks, become a badass in general. Martin had already discussed this idea with me. Become a ninja with all these weapons so to speak, then go to China and learn Kung Fu, then go to Tibet and be a monk for a month. It sounded cool.

But I knew deep down after the month was up I was leaving Cambodia, hence there was no chance of a long term relationship. I wasn't gonna live here for the rest of my life for her, even if I did love her, I have ambitions in life that require me to be elsewhere. But since she wasn't talking to me at all right now, I figured I'd just wait until that night. We got to Siem Riep, checked in, then headed out for a few drinks. A flash of brilliance hits me, I turn to Martin and say "you know, if you hit that (referring to BoarEye), that would work out best for me. If fact I would view that as a favour." He finds it strange that not a few hours ago I was talking about how maybe I love her, now I want him to hit it. meh.

He then concocts a plan: "Check this out right, we get drunk, I take her back to my room, start fukin her, then you sneak in with your camera and turn the lights on. I quickly jump out of bed and pose with my erect penis (while smiling, he holds his fists to his hips to show me what he means) while you take a picture of me and her naked"

"In fact, I could quickly throw on a shirt that says in big letters across the front, 'SUP' "

And the weird thing is BoarEye and Martin are flirting all night long, while BoarEye won't even acknowledge my existence. I just lay back thinking to myself "you know, this all might just work itself out!"

It didn't though, BoarEye ended up coming back to 'our' room. I walk in, lay down, turn on the TV, and BoarEye's back into freaky mode. She runs over, jumps on my bed and almost immediately goes into cowgirl position and starts talking sexy like to me with that mischievous smile. At this point I was convinced she is basically a high priced hooker. I pay for her stuff during the day, she sexes me during the night. I had been thinking this for the past day or so, and I've been in deep philosophical thought over the 'prostitution grey area'.

So I say "uh, I don't think you like me." she says "What? you angry me?" I assure her I'm not, then she says "you no like me?"

I should have known better, but I jumped straight into reassuring her how much I like her and I'm not angry at her, because I don't want her to feel bad at all, and it's true. Though this makes it hard for me to 'break up' with her. She simply says "I like you", and since I've said I like her, wtf do I do now? Meanwhile, she's fooling around with my package, and I have a 19 year old Cambodian body laying on top of me trying to get freaky with me. I go over to Martin's room to get a condom since I'm out and come back.

That 60 seconds gives me time to come up with a new plan of attack. I come back and say "I need to say you something. I have to leave in 3 days, and I cannot come back to Cambodia." Now, I had assumed she knew this already, Mik told me they both knew this already, but she reacted like she didn't. She gets this hurt look on her face, and cuddles up to me and appears to be fake crying into my shoulder. I'm ~80% sure it's fake. After a while she says "you can come back to visit later?" I say no I'm never coming back (this was a lie, I might).

She brings on a barrage of questions like "Can you stay longer?" "You come back maybe 1 year?" "Where you go?" "You have girlfriend in Vietnam/Thailand/China/Australia?" etc etc and repeats the same questions over and over.

Eventually I suggest for her own good that we seperate. I explain to her if I stay with her for the next 3 days she will be very sad when I leave, even more sad than if I left now. She says "I cry now I cry later same same." I insist on a separation, then she just says "No" and rolls on top of me. She says "You want me?" I can't say no, so sex ensues.

Then there's some pillow talk. She repeats some more standard questions, I give the same standard answers, then she says "Jim? I want to say you something. Yesterday I too shy to tell you, but I want baby." I'm like, uh, ok, good to know, I guess. She says "You want baby?" I'm like yeah I want a baby some day, maybe when I'm older. She asks me if I want a boy or girl, I say girl I guess, and she gets all happy and excited, saying she does too. Then she says "You give me baby?" And as she asks this, she lifts her body up on top of mine (we were both naked and I had no condom on) and hovers her vag just above my wiener, as if to say "I'm good to go, just say the word!"

I explain to her as carefully as I can I don't want a baby with her. She protests, "Why not? You give me baby, you leave, you come back when I have baby." I explain I cannot come back. She counters, "Okay you give me baby, you no come back no problem, I send you photo." I explain I need to live with my babies. She suggests I give her a baby and I live with her. We go in circles a few times.

She explains to me how she really wants my baby, because I have beautiful skin (white skin) and a beautiful nose (white style of nose). This seems to be common in SE Asia, the lighter the skin the more beautiful the person. In a manner of words I say too bad. She goes on about how she wants a baby like Ali, I sense some jealousy there. Ali's son and baby get a lot of attention and I guess Ali does by association, I'm guessing BoarEye wanted some of that.

She drops the baby talk momentarily to tell me how sad she's gonna be when I leave. She says she'll start drinking and smoking. I'm like "Don't do that, that's bad for you" and she's basically like nope, I'm gonna do it. Then she says "You give me baby or I be very sad." A few protests by me, and she steps it up to "You give me baby or I cry and drink and smoke when you leave." Some more protests from me, I'm trying as best I can to be delicate her.

Then she leans down, puts her mouth near my left ear, and whispers "You give me baby or I kill you."

I startle a little, look her in the eye and try my hardest to give a smile like she's joking with me or something, but there was no way I could hide the fear in my face. She says "You believe me?" I honestly can't remember how I responded to that, I think I said yeah in a barely audible voice. In hindsight, since no attempt on my life was made, it probably wasn't a serious threat.

I don't recall much talk after that, we just sort of lay there. A bit later she starts getting a bit frisky and gives me a handjob. Apparently Cambodians don't like to give blowjobs, since blowjobs are associated with Vietnamese, and Cambodians don't like Vietnamese. Cambodian women also seem to be jealous of Vietnamese skin because it is lighter. The more you know.

So yeah we drift off to sleep, then wake up way too early cause Mik wants to leave at 7am for Ankor Wat.

BoarEye seems to be in not quite cold, but distant mode that day. I stick with Martin (who tells me I shouldn't have hit it last night, pfft) most of the time and we goof off. Martin rides the line of simply pissing the girls off, and pissing them off enough for them to take serious revenge, it was fun. BoarEye teaches me and Martin how to ask some one to "suck my dick", and "eat my vagina". Ankor Wat was ok, it's big.

At some point I talk to Mik and Ali, and I ask Ali to explain to BoarEye that it's best for her if I seperate from her now. Ali takes her aside and has a girl to girl talk. When I come back BoarEye looks very emotional and hurt

Martin and I do our own thing for an hour or two, then we all meet up to go back the the hostel. I go out to a net cafe for an hour or so, come back, and then chat with Mik and Ali in their room. Apparently BoarEye has basically shut herself in her room and is crying. I discover Mik told Ali I don't want to be with BoarEye because I am scared of her, and I think she is crazy. This is apparently what Ali told BoarEye at Ankor Wat. Mik is a n00b at life.

It was true, I was being a bit paranoid, afraid she'd have me wacked, but the main reason I wasn't still boning her at night was because I was afraid she would get too attached to me, even though she knew I was leaving in 3 days.

So I go into her room and she's full on crying. Through the tears she says over and over "You no like me, You scare me (meaning you are scared of me), Ali and your friend say me"

I lie, and tell her I'm not scared of her. I tell her the truth, and tell her I like her. I tell her Ali and Mik are wrong. She just replies "[censored]." Eventually I get the concept across the reason I'm not sleeping with her is because in 3 days she would be even more sad than she is now. She understands, but claims it's just as worse now.

Eventually there's nothing left to be said, so I go back to Ali and Mik to try to set them straight (go along with my half truths). I get my point across to Mik, but I get the feeling Ali doesn't understand me and still thinks the only reason I'm not with BoarEye is because I'm scared of her. Also, the both of them are pressuring me to just sleep with her for the next 3 days. I say that'd be better for me but worse for BoarEye, they disagree, and there's nothing more to be said. In hindsight maybe it was better to keep sleeping with her.

Martin and I go back to a net cafe to play some poker. As midnight strikes I look up at Martin and say "Happy 21st birthday dude." He was deep in thought, and about 10 secs later he replies "oh. thanks" and resumes. We leave when the net cafe shuts.

The next day me and Martin do our thing, and come across the other 3 in the evening when they are on their way out to some clubs. Ali invites us along, but then Mik makes it known he doesn't want Martin to come along. So we split, and me and Martin end up at some rando club filled with varying degrees of hookers. I get sick and throw up in the toilets, and to my pleasant surprise a guy walks into my stall and starts massaging my back while I throw up. I tipped him $2.

The next few days are a bit hazy, but Martin flew out to China, and the rest of us took a bus back to Phnon Phen. On the bus ride back I sit next to BoarEye, and she completely ignores me, even when I directly ask her a question, great. So Mik switches seats with her.

Then near the end of the bus ride she starts getting all freaky again and sits next to me, and I fall under the spell again. That night the four of us go out for some 'happy' pizzas, me and BoarEye go back and have sex, and I tell her I'm leaving tomorrow. In the morning, as I go to say good bye to her, she simple simply smiles and hugs me goodbye. I was totally not expecting that.

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Blog ends here cause I got tired of typing. I'll try to fill in the last bit:

I hang around for like 5 days cause I can only withdraw so much per day from the atm and I need 2k to shoot a tank (see linky). One of those days I wondering around for a net cafe that doesn't have sh!tty comps, and bump into Ali, woops. I can't remember for sure, but I think I just ate dinner with her, told her I was leaving in like a week for China, and left (I may have sexed her again not quite sure). She got me to agree to see her just before I left.

I do the tank a few days later. I go to a Cambodian village in the middle of nowhere for a few days which was pretty cool. I then book a flight out and go to her place to say goodbye, she and my tuk tuk driver friends (who took me to their village) take me to the airport and wave me goodbye.

So yeah, I had planned to go backpacking with Mik for 5 months after this, but he had left with Ali to do Vietnam for a while. We meet up in China, Mik lasts about a month, and caves in and goes back to Cambodia to live with Ali (he had planned to finish our backpacking trip first). So yeah now he's mysteriously got into lots of debt.

I just a few days ago found out Ali actually admitted to Mik she and BoarEye used to hang around the guesthouse just to meet whiteys so they could have like a one or two week fling and get a bit of dough off them (usually the whities would opt to leave em a bit of cash when they left).

It was interesting while it lasted BoarEye

FYP

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Quote: Fluffytiger is the man!

That is true, but you're only saying that cause I make you look good in my reports

[censored] yea, leave out the stuff about me sodom1zing children, sucking d1ck for crack, etc

btw wtf is that fyp?

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My friends and I are beginning to plan a trip, we're thinking either Ko Samui or Pattaya. Any recommendations? How long does it take to get to Pattaya from Bangkok?

Thanks, this is an awesome thread. I completely wasted my day at work yesterday reading it, took several hours, but was well worth it.

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pattaya is like a nursing home combined with a brothel.

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So are you saying that Chaweng might be a better idea? I want to be able to drink until the sun comes up, which doesn't sound feasible in Ko Samui. Both places seem like they have plenty to do during the day. I also don't like the idea of hookers everywhere, but I want to find chicks for sure.

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Reged: 09/19/05 Posts: 1110 Loc: Raleigh, NC Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: amachur] #8585540 - 12/28/06 11:45 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

How cold is it there right now (in Bangkok). I saw they had some national emergency in Chiang Mai because it was so cold.

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I looked through my Thailand pictures today and missed it so bad

Edited by Ribsauce (12/28/06 11:47 PM)

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Quote: I also don't like the idea of hookers everywhere

then you have no business going to pattaya. the beach sucks, the other travelers are mostly not people you'd want to hang out with, it is dirty and crowded: what they do have is what is probably the single largest gathering of $25 hookers anywhere in the world.

To nation and other brown peoples,

We have a friend in town from the states. He is large and indian but was raised in London and LA so speaks like he wasn't born in india.

He arrived two days ago. He has gotten 5 phone numbers that I know of and has had other successes with the ladies which I probably shouldn't disclose in the innanet. He was a bit too agressive in the beginning but we taught him a few things about how to talk to Thai girls and I think he has an amazing month coming up. Now that he approaches them the right way, they seem just as interested in talking with him as with any white dude in our group. The only real bad beat I think is for black guys who I know many Thai's don't like. So ya, Indian's can get play too.

Also wanted to ask a little style advice from some of the other Thailand Guru's here:

Ok getting phone numbers is a snap. I figured out an opening script that works and it works great. What about the follow up? What do you guys do? I'm not having nearly as much success with this as I should be I think. It's probably like 1/3 I ever go on a date with.

How long do you wait to call them? In America calling the next day is pretty desperate, same here? Do you do like Thai chics and keep calling back if they don't answer the first time?

Any other pointers on this appreciated, where to take them the first date, go with friends or not, when to make the first move etc etc etc Trip reports appreciated also.

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So, I just got back from 1 month Thailand. I am on dial up internet (WTF) until I go back so I'm leaving out pics for now.

I'll be back there within 10 days. IMO it is BY FAR the most fun I've had in a month+my favorite country to spend time in.

The beaches are often the best I've ever been too (I go to lots of beaches), there is absolutely no problem getting laid by Thai (definately no problem) or western (almost definately no problem) girls. The food is great and the cultural differences can be a lot of fun to learn about. There is also a lot of nice scenery up north and (I've heard) some good times to be had in neighboring countries.

Aside from the small portion of the Thai population that relentlessly tryed to scam me almost everyone in the country was great. You could walk into just about any bar and have a bunch of new like minded friends within a few minutes (Thai and white).

You could like on $15-$20 a day there pretty easily, but if you want any sort of resort quality you probably have to shell out more.

I'll leave out any real hooker observations I've had. I think the basic premise of a hooker still applies though, you give them money and then do whatever you want. There are also no shortage of hookers over there if you're concerned about that.

Hookers really aren't necessary though. Getting a good looking Thai chick is not that hard (I'm the first one to admit I don't got tons of game, I am SEXY AS HELL though...

Anyway, ask me anything u want. PM might work better if for some reason you really want to hear my opinion since this thread is a freaking beast.

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How cold is it there right now (in Bangkok). I saw they had some national emergency in Chiang Mai because it was so cold.

I've heard Chiang Mai gets pretty cold but Bangkok does not. I'm in shorts and a t-shirt with air-con blasting if that gives you an idea. I'd say its like 90 outside during the day.

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I looked through my Thailand pictures today and missed it so bad

It's going to get worse, much worse

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How much of that month did you end up spending on KPN?

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Quote: How much of that month did you end up spending on KPN?

Almost 2 weeks. KPN is one of my favorite spots. The week of the full moon was legenday. I probably heard that "ozone" song at least 500 times. Also went around Bangkok,Chang Mai, Krabi area+Phi Phi islands and a bit of Koh Samoi.

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then you have no business going to pattaya. the beach sucks, the other travelers are mostly not people you'd want to hang out with, it is dirty and crowded...

If you want a nice beach then going to Pattaya beach when Jomtien beach, Dongtan area in particular, is not more than 10 minutes away by baht bus is simply stupid. Personally, I did not find Pattaya beach as dirty and crowded as you, but then again I came after a month stay in Bangkok, which is by far the dirtiest and most crowded place I have ever seen.

BTW, I think Pattaya is great.

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Quote: How cold is it there right now (in Bangkok). I saw they had some national emergency in Chiang Mai because it was so cold.

Not really sure what a national emergency would entail but it's been business as usual in Chiang Mai. But, yeah, it's cold as [censored] here from midnight to 8AM. Made the mistake of giving my girl a ride to work at 7AM on my motorcycle wearing sandals and I thought I was going to get frostbite on my way back. In Bangkok you won't need a long sleeved shirt. Ever. In Chiang Mai you'll need a sweatshirt or winter coat.

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Quote: Ok getting phone numbers is a snap.

It's too easy, and, IMO, doesn't have nearly the significance as it does in the US. I mean I've had a girl give me her number with her boyfriend ten feet away (at the time I thought he was just a lurking co-worker).

Quote: What about the follow up? What do you guys do? How long do you wait to call them?

I try and avoid phone calls whenever possible and make plans in person. Even if the girl's English is ok (put pa sa Thai dai nit noi) the language barrier is about 100x harder to overcome over the phone than it is in person. God damn I wish I knew how to text message in Thai.

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Quote: I've had a girl give me her number with her boyfriend ten feet away

My buddy made out with a girl right in front of her boyfriend the other night. Thus, IMO, the fact that she has a boyfriend does not mean she didn't give you her number for the same reason you asked for it

Quote: I try and avoid phone calls whenever possible and make plans in person.

What kind of plans? Invite them to dinner? Bowling with friends? A movie with just the two of you?

Or is the obvious best possible option ok, inviting her to share a bottle with one of her friends and one of yours? I always think this might be too forward but would definately be the quickest path to fallatio.

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Quote: I've had a girl give me her number with her boyfriend ten feet away

My buddy made out with a girl right in front of her boyfriend the other night. Thus, IMO, the fact that she has a boyfriend does not mean she didn't give you her number for the same reason you asked for it

Quote: I try and avoid phone calls whenever possible and make plans in person.

What kind of plans? Invite them to dinner? Bowling with friends? A movie with just the two of you?

Or is the obvious best possible option ok, inviting her to share a bottle with one of her friends and one of yours? I always think this might be too forward but would definately be the quickest path to fallatio.

I found it best to not get involved. Last thing I want is a a local wanting to kill me.

I'm here solo so some of those options aren't options for me. I just try and do stuff that's fun for me, different for her, and doesn't require a ton of speaking. Driving range, bowling alley, arcade. Now that I'm in CM, the hot springs are probably awesome, too.

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Quote: it worse, much worse

I'm gonna have to become a poker balla or something so I can live there

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Getting drunk and bowling is always a good time with chicks you recently met.

Just call them up a few days later and tell them you want to do something. Its pretty straight forward and you dont have to jump through hoops like in the USA.

A bottle of wine or two usually makes the clothes fall right off.

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http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenew...C1_%5BFeed%5D-7

[censored]. I don't think I want to go out tonite now...

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http://nationmultimedia.com/2006/12/31/headlines/headlines_30022985.php

"Seven Bombs Rock Bangkok, Kill two"

"Deputy Governor of Bangkok, Wallop Suwandee, announced that all the events designated for the New Year's even countdown celebration have been cancelled."

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Wow. What's the buzz? Muslims from the south or some kind of domestic faction?

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Stay safe, guys.

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This is unprecedented in the history of Thailand from what I've read. Condolences to all those suffering.

The latest I could find http://thainews.prd.go.th/newsenglish/previewnews.php?news_id=255001010023, although as of now it seems a non-coordinated attack. Just the fact it's outside the capitol raises caution for other areas such as phuket, koh sumai, etc.

My flight is already booked 1/10-3/29. I'm totally confused. Any reaction of advice appreciated. Be safe

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stay safe bill

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Quote: This is unprecedented in the history of Thailand from what I've read. Condolences to all those suffering.

The latest I could find http://thainews.prd.go.th/newsenglish/previewnews.php?news_id=255001010023, although as of now it seems a non-coordinated attack. Just the fact it's outside the capitol raises caution for other areas such as phuket, koh sumai, etc.

My flight is already booked 1/10-3/29. I'm totally confused. Any reaction of advice appreciated. Be safe

The only thing I can tell you is that I was out and about in Chiang Mai this morning/early afternoon and if not for these news articles I would have had no clue that any of this was happening. I haven't specifically been near Changklan Road, though.

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Anyone ever bribe someone for a visa or have a story about someone who has? Whenever I mention to someone how nice it would be to get a one-year visa, the answer is always the same: anyone can get a one-year visa if they have money.

Even with the old system of unlimited 30-day visas, 30,000 baht would be an absolute bargain, I think, given that Bangkok-to-Cambodia border runs are typically 2,000 baht and ruin the better part of a day. I would guess that for someone in Chiang Mai or Koh Samui, a 50,000+ baht bribe would be worthwhile, given the added time expenditure. I'm wondering if these figures are even in the ballpark.

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Here's hoping all you guys are safe right now. Any news on who set the bombs?

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Quote: Here's hoping all you guys are safe right now. Any news on who set the bombs?

Apparently it's not the insurgency from the south, but politically motivated bombs having to do with the the political upheaval/coup a few months back.

www.bangkokpost.com

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Hey Degen, where did you say to go for plane tickets, I can't find it because this thread is enormous. Everywhere I'm looking is saying like $1600 round trip from the U.S., when people here where talking about spending half of that.

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www.airasia.com www.gatewaylax.com www.kayak.com

Those are all pretty good.

I made a big nice post but it got [censored] up so I'll just say that Bangkok is fine and I am fine and New Years was fine, just some a-hole's looking for headlines.

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Hello guys AGAIN! =) WE are coming to thailand in two weeks...We will go to next Full Moon Party but before that we want just chill on some nice beach. I know that there is alot of beaches before Koh Samui but maybe some1 have some good advice which1? Damn Im just waiting and waiting. Sitting in home is killing me LOL =)

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After reading through this thread for about 4 hours straight yesterday I really want to plan a trip and stay for about a month. It would have to be in the summer so is this a bad time to go? Is there alot of rain or does it get too hot? I can deal with some heat as it gets up to 110 heat index here in the summer.

I cant really decide if I would want to stay on an island or the mainland, but as asked above me what is your favorite island? I read up on Sumoi and it seems people complain about alot of construction going on around them all the time. So, what's your favorite beach where there's not too many people, but within a couple of miles I can get food and internet access?

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Just to let everyone know I have a trip planned where I'll be in BKK on Feb 8. Free pool lessons to any 2+2'ers who want them. I also wouldn't mind a little help when I get there at learning the turf. PM me contact info and I hope to see y'all soon.

Thanks again to everyone for all the great info. I'm stoked.

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Hops,

That is actually the worst time to visit. It gets unbearably hot and humid. If you come then the islands are definately where you want to be.

My favorite islands are Koh Pha Ngan and Koh Phi Phi. Both have a very cool small town feel to them and are mostly visited by white people. Laid back, chill on the beach all day and drink all night cultures. Koh Tao is very similar and has a huge diving industry if you have any interest in getting certified.

Samui and Phuket are both very popular but also way overdeveloped IMO, Phuket far more so than Samui. You also run into lots of old dudes and their whore/girlfriends. I try and stay away from that set as much as possible. Any of them get boring after a week or so (unless you are Ski and spend most of your trip on Koh Pha Ngan ), so island hopping is always a good option.

Dino,

I'll definately take you up on those pool lessons, have a safe flight.

Here are some pictures for OOT's viewing pleasure, took them about ten minutes ago. This chic is super hot IMO, what do you guys think?

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The fact that you prob just met her and she's willing to take such pics makes her about 10x hotter....

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Quote: The fact that you prob just met her and she's willing to take such pics makes her about 10x hotter....

Which is good because she doesn't seem very hot compared to the thai girls I've beat off to.

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Quote:

Quote: The fact that you prob just met her and she's willing to take such pics makes her about 10x hotter....

Which is good because she doesn't seem very hot compared to the thai girls I've beat off to.

Either I have bad taste or those pictures don't do her justice. Those are large D's...

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Quote:

Quote:

Quote: The fact that you prob just met her and she's willing to take such pics makes her about 10x hotter....

Which is good because she doesn't seem very hot compared to the thai girls I've beat off to.

Either I have bad taste or those pictures don't do her justice. Those are large D's...

pretty face/appearance >>>> cup size

But that might just be my standards.

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Quote:

Quote:

Quote: The fact that you prob just met her and she's willing to take such pics makes her about 10x hotter....

Which is good because she doesn't seem very hot compared to the thai girls I've beat off to.

Either I have bad taste or those pictures don't do her justice. Those are large D's...

She's not gorgeous, but I'm going to do 2039430985 girls just like her when I'm there (and in fact, that's kind of the object of the exercise).

Meanwhile, this is OOT, so don't be surprised if she's rated no higher than a 3.5

BTW, if you PM me contact details I will get in touch with you when I arrive.

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Degen can you post some pictures of your apt sometime? Your blog said it was 500 a month and I'm just curious what 500 a month gets you in BKK.

Also what are your total living bills a month (apt. + internet +power/water/whatever but not food and [censored])

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Pics of his apartment are earlier in the thread.

As for the girl, the [censored] are nice, but I'm starting to think I prefer Koreans or Japanese.

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If I remember correctly, in an earlier post, someone said you could get a live-in maid for $200-300 per month. What (obv. non-sexual) things would they do? Would they cook and go shopping for you, or would this be extra? Could they act as a quasi-secretary and answer the phone and plan things for you?

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iron81,

I just hit show all and went through the whole thread twice. I saw southerndog's house in Chiang Mai (my favorite place when I was there), the three places beats lived in Bangkok, and farang0's awesome house on Koh Samui that cost 250 a month, but I did not see any pictures of degen's pad. Are you sure they are buried in this huge thread?

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Sorry, the place I thought was Degen's was Beats's. I had to search it too.

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Quote:

Quote:

Quote: The fact that you prob just met her and she's willing to take such pics makes her about 10x hotter....

Which is good because she doesn't seem very hot compared to the thai girls I've beat off to.

Either I have bad taste or those pictures don't do her justice. Those are large D's...

I'd probably do some stuff with her

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Thailand trip is delayed since I feel busto after losing more than half my roll.

I WILL get there!

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[censored] it,

I'm going to Thailand before [censored] hits the fan

not joking, thinking end of Feb for two weeks

Degen, is this a good time?

ps.I'll prob be cruising solo

Edited by surfinillini (01/11/07 01:57 AM)

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ALSO

I want to read your sites but both are down?

WTF ?

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deg,

i could be wrong but i think B cup in thai is A cup in USA, C cup is B cup, etc.

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Surf,

Ya thats a fine time to visit. Much later and the weather starts to suck. My sites are down or somebody else? I just checked and all of mine are working fine...

Iron,

I'll try and get some more talent up here and see if we can't make you love Thai women again I have a very specific taste (big [censored], face on that chic above) and it actually isn't very popular amoung other farang. Good for me I think.

KKF,

I estimated that she has american D cups, I never asked her how big they are.

All,

I'll get a video and some pictures of my pad and YouTube/post them, been meaning to do that anyway.

Bugstud,

www.airasia.com www.gatewaylax.com www.kayak.com And Thai Airways website

for cheap airfare

Dino,

grindblog@gmail.com

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Quote: If I remember correctly, in an earlier post, someone said you could get a live-in maid for $200-300 per month. What (obv. non-sexual) things would they do? Would they cook and go shopping for you, or would this be extra? Could they act as a quasi-secretary and answer the phone and plan things for you?

I pay ~$40 a month and a chic comes to my place 3 times a week and cleans everything and organizes my stuff. I have a laundry service in my building for $25 per month and the maid brings the clothes down and brings them back up the next day...so i never do laundry or dishes (seriously, never) or put new toilet paper rolls up, or anything else...and pay $65 a month.

To have a live in maid you'd need an extra bedroom or maids quarters but they are pretty much your slave when they are there. You can have them do whatever you want for $100-$200 per month. You wont be able to find one that speaks english though so answering the phone is out.

More normal would be:

Laundry, cooking, cleaning, shopping, running errands, negotiating prices for you etc etc

Thai chics will do all of that for you too, so just get a girlfriend and a part-time maid, works for me.

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Trust me guys ive met her a few times and there D's for sure. They actually look way better in person. I personally think her friend is so much hotter.

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One more question, my friends.. Have you visited in Koh Samet?? I heard that its very nice place and I rly dont know which island we should choose. Phi Phi or Samet I think..

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Quote: One more question, my friends.. Have you visited in Koh Samet?? I heard that its very nice place and I rly dont know which island we should choose. Phi Phi or Samet I think..

thats one island i've actually forgot about of late and yes it is pretty awesome. it is a 2 hour taxi ride from bangkok so that makes it pretty attractive. its mostly rich thai's and they don't kiss your ass so much for being white but it is a great time.

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Nice thread!

I've been living in Bangkok over a month now, with poker as the primary source of income. Would be very cool to meet some 2+2ers here, especially if alcohol and/or pool is involved. I play at the Ball in Hand (Times Square one) a lot, so if you go there you've probably seen me.

But Degen, is she's super hot, I think your camera is broken. There are tons of waay sexier girls here! Admittedly, if D cup is high priority, that eliminates many of them.

Edited by Gondolin (01/12/07 02:24 AM)

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anyone want to do a spring trip?

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www.thaiprivateeye.com

Found this in a tell-all story from the owner called 'Confessions of a Bangkok Private Eye'. Book is a great read on the shady ways of bar girls and other Thai women. The site is an investigative service maybe somebody who reads this thread at some point will get some good use out of

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Quote: www.thaiprivateeye.com

Found this in a tell-all story from the owner called 'Confessions of a Bangkok Private Eye'. Book is a great read on the shady ways of bar girls and other Thai women. The site is an investigative service maybe somebody who reads this thread at some point will get some good use out of

Surely there are cheaper ways to hire a dick.

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Quote:

Surely there are cheaper ways to hire a dick.

Just go to any corner in Pattaya!

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Hey guys, great thread. I just have to chime in on two things: 1) Thailand is the best place I have ever visited point blank, and my list includes Hawaii, Costa rica, Philippines, Tahiti, Belize, Cancun, Greece, France, China....you get the picture. But my main concern is that you may be misrepresenting the place as far as men of color are concerned. I am a black american from So.Cal and I was treated well by everyone. I did not encounter one person who was disrespectful to my face. I did get the "you know P. Diddy??" and such once in a while, but most of the time it led to a chance to talk w/ the girls. Granted, I did not aggresively pursue most of the woman or maybe I would have experienced a rejection based on color. But with so many woman looking for western men, you don't have to put forth much effort. I do pretty well w/ the girls in cali, But in Thailand it was like fishing in my kitchen sink. All men interested, I say "GO".

2) I did not see anyone post about the shopping in Thailand. I travel alot and bring back gifts for friends and family. The one thing I cannot stress enough is to "negotiate the price" from street vendors and in outdoor markets. It is expected and you will be surprised how low they will go if you act as if you are willing to walk away.(the malls of course are a different story, depending on the vendor).

By the way, the first time that I visited Thailand I booked through a travel agency and spent 10 days with air,hotel, food, tours, and transportation included for around $900(from Los Angeles). The tour guide and driver were available to me and my two friends the entire time, invaluable my first time.

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Just got this text message:

'2p2er is here at the Fun House because of your thread! You coming out tonite?' Sick. Fun House is a great little bar my buddies own on Sukumvit 11 near Bed Supper club. They got a shower in there where they have their coctail waitresses put on shows from time to time

Don't know who it is, but awesome. This thread has been amazing, I'm glad I've helped some people experience my little slice of paradise

Supa,

Great to hear that. Most of my opinions on that matter have been formed through what I've been told by Thai people. There just aren't that many black people over here so never had a chance to talk to any of them about it.

Also yes, the shopping is insane and you can typically buy things for ~50% of the quoted price if you bargain hard (this excludes some relatively non-negotiable items like new cell phones, airfare and plasma TV's)

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Okay ty degen (again) I think that we go Samet when we arrive to thailand.

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Quote: Hey guys, great thread. I just have to chime in on two things: 1) Thailand is the best place I have ever visited point blank, and my list includes Hawaii, Costa rica, Philippines, Tahiti, Belize, Cancun, Greece, France, China....you get the picture. But my main concern is that you may be misrepresenting the place as far as men of color are concerned. I am a black american from So.Cal and I was treated well by everyone. I did not encounter one person who was disrespectful to my face. I did get the "you know P. Diddy??" and such once in a while, but most of the time it led to a chance to talk w/ the girls. Granted, I did not aggresively pursue most of the woman or maybe I would have experienced a rejection based on color. But with so many woman looking for western men, you don't have to put forth much effort. I do pretty well w/ the girls in cali, But in Thailand it was like fishing in my kitchen sink. All men interested, I say "GO".

2) I did not see anyone post about the shopping in Thailand. I travel alot and bring back gifts for friends and family. The one thing I cannot stress enough is to "negotiate the price" from street vendors and in outdoor markets. It is expected and you will be surprised how low they will go if you act as if you are willing to walk away.(the malls of course are a different story, depending on the vendor).

By the way, the first time that I visited Thailand I booked through a travel agency and spent 10 days with air,hotel, food, tours, and transportation included for around $900(from Los Angeles). The tour guide and driver were available to me and my two friends the entire time, invaluable my first time.

Wow, how far in advance did you book? Would that have been available if you hadn't been travelling as three?

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I did book like a month in advance and it was off-peak, but I wanted to show everybody that this is a trip that most can afford. I believe the price was based on at least 2 people to the room. The bottom line is to just get there, and it is probably a good idea to bring a friend the first time anyway. Personally, I would not have gone some of the places that we did had I been alone.

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I went to thailand for 5 weeks this summer. I had barely any money, had no clue what I was doing or how to speak thai, and it was AWESOME.

Koh pha ngang (spelling is F'ed up Im sure) is awesome. The islands are SO CHILL and phi phi and all of them are great. I spent like 600 bucks in 5 weeks doing whatever i wanted all day every day

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Home game tomorrow night at my place. 4000 baht buy-in, 20/40 baht blinds, NLHE. PM me for address/phone number.

Also:

Quote: Dear Member:

After being flagged by members of the YouTube community and reviewed by YouTube staff, the video below has been removed due to its inappropriate nature.

Sexy Thai Office Worker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PEAsaCb-Pw

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Quote: Home game tomorrow night at my place. 4000 baht buy-in, 20/40 baht blinds, NLHE. PM me for address/phone number.

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Quote: Dear Member:

After being flagged by members of the YouTube community and reviewed by YouTube staff, the video below has been removed due to its inappropriate nature.

Sexy Thai Office Worker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PEAsaCb-Pw

Wow i cant speak for anything else in this thread that as seen this video on Youtube. But it was one of my favs on the site,im very sad that it was taken down. Personally i didnt see that much wrong with it there was no nudity.

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Quote:

Quote: Home game tomorrow night at my place. 4000 baht buy-in, 20/40 baht blinds, NLHE. PM me for address/phone number.

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Quote: Dear Member:

After being flagged by members of the YouTube community and reviewed by YouTube staff, the video below has been removed due to its inappropriate nature.

Sexy Thai Office Worker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PEAsaCb-Pw

Wow i cant speak for anything else in this thread that as seen this video on Youtube. But it was one of my favs on the site,im very sad that it was taken down. Personally i didnt see that much wrong with it there was no nudity.

I said in the video that I wouldn't put her on the internet. To me that was the best part lol

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Reged: 03/14/06 Posts: 1406 Loc: Must...bet...more! Re: Ski's quick 2 cents on Thailand [Re: Degen] #8776604 - 01/14/07 11:19 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote:

Quote:

Quote: Home game tomorrow night at my place. 4000 baht buy-in, 20/40 baht blinds, NLHE. PM me for address/phone number.

Also:

Quote: Dear Member:

After being flagged by members of the YouTube community and reviewed by YouTube staff, the video below has been removed due to its inappropriate nature.

Sexy Thai Office Worker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PEAsaCb-Pw

Wow i cant speak for anything else in this thread that as seen this video on Youtube. But it was one of my favs on the site,im very sad that it was taken down. Personally i didnt see that much wrong with it there was no nudity.

I said in the video that I wouldn't put her on the internet. To me that was the best part lol

Well, if you hired her, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't make another one.

To the person who referred to 'Ball in Hand', I've heard this is a good poolroom. I'll definately shoot you a PM close to when I arrive and then look you up. Can anyone recommend me a hotel in that area? Actually, is that a good area to stay for a few days first of all, and if so, can anyone recommend a good hotel?

Thanks.

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Reged: 06/10/06 Posts: 3706 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: FluffyTiger] #8777179 - 01/15/07 12:28 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Just reading through this thread, I've got to admit that Thailand sounds pretty cool. I'm 21 right now, have been playing poker for a living and honestly have no responsibilities whatsoever. (No school, no job, no GF, no debt). I'm starting to think I should really go spend a few weeks in Thailand.

Edit: On that "no responsibilities" thing, just remembered I'm still on probation for my DUI. It's not real restrictive, and doesn't say I can't leave the state or anything, but I'm not sure if my PO would be thrilled about a recreational trip to Thailand.

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: iggymcfly] #8786708 - 01/16/07 06:35 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Go online and find some program that is helping the needy or something, and print that all out and get an acceptance letter or email from that group. Just Google 'non profit thailand' or something.

That should do the trick

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #8786712 - 01/16/07 06:36 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

And a new video for ya'll.

This chic was pretty hot but wasn't worth cheating on the GF for, until she decided to get breast implants...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHg_ZOAR6no

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Reged: 07/16/03 Posts: 1148 Loc: Andy B. '08 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #8796435 - 01/17/07 10:49 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Degen, I'd just like to add that I'm really surprised you told that girl from the first video u wouldn't put it on the internet and u did. Does your word mean anything? Or, am I missing something?

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Reged: 03/14/06 Posts: 1406 Loc: Must...bet...more! Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: southerndog] #8797633 - 01/17/07 12:31 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Have any of you had the occasion to use a dentist in Thailand? I need a crown that I was going to get before I left, but now I'm thinking it might be a lot cheaper there. Does anyone have any experience with dentists? How are the prices?

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Reged: 11/21/04 Posts: 409 Loc: I am Jack's stone cold nuts Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: dinopoker] #8798435 - 01/17/07 01:29 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

The prices for crowns are cheaper than in america or europe. In fact there even is some kind of dental tourism. People who fly to Bangkok just for their teeth and save enough money to afford the flight and more. I went here: http://www.dentalhospitalbangkok.com/english/welcome.htm and can recommend it.

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Reged: 08/17/06 Posts: 111 Loc: Stud8 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Madd] #8798571 - 01/17/07 01:38 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Wait, the $1300 I just spent on a crown could have been spent on a trip to Thailand? Now I feel silly.

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Reged: 09/03/02 Posts: 1444 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: dinopoker] #8803681 - 01/17/07 07:21 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: Have any of you had the occasion to use a dentist in Thailand? I need a crown that I was going to get before I left, but now I'm thinking it might be a lot cheaper there. Does anyone have any experience with dentists? How are the prices?

I have have never had any major procedures done but I had a routine checkup/cleaning and it was great. In Thailand, the dentists do the cleanings while the hygienists assist. The service I received was, at worst, equal to what I get in the US, and I happen to love my American dentist. I paid 400 baht (around $11). In the US I pay $90.

A friend of mine just had two wisdom teeth taken out last week as well as some crown work. I'm hoping he chimes in here, too.

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Reged: 01/19/05 Posts: 721 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Uston] #8820012 - 01/18/07 07:33 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

It sounds like a lot of you guys are really living the life in Thailand. Sounds like an awesome place. I'm an online poker pro looking to relocate from the US (at least temporarily). Thailand seems like a very good option. I have just a few questions though. I'm sorry if some of these questions have been asked and answered before. I've read all these posts at one time or another, but its hard to remember all the information. It would be nice if someone made a FAQ and put it on the first page of this thread.

What is the deal with visas. If I just wanted to live in one spot for a year, what are my best options to get my visa and how long are they good for. I think someone asked if you could bribe someone for a year long visa, but i never read a response to the question.

I've heard you can get good/decent internet connections there, but i've also read people expressing concern about it being difficult to play online poker there. Can someone who plays online poker over there tell me what, if any, problems you run into playing online poker there. Are you able to play on all the major sites? Stars, Party, FT, UB, Bodog?

Can a non-Thai citizen own property there? Can i buy a house there?

Last question, for now, is how to get money off poker sites into my hands while over there. Can i set up a bank account there? Is it easy?

Thanks all.

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Reged: 10/01/04 Posts: 6721 Loc: Blogging in BsAs Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: LuckyDevil] #8857462 - 01/21/07 11:51 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Bump.

Degen,

I wouldn't dream of trying to get this thread moved to the travel forum because it's my understanding it is mostly sex stories OOT would enjoy. But if you'd like to do a more serious thread in the Travel Forum about living in Thailand and what it is like and how everything works, we'd love to have it. I certainly am quite interested, but sorting through the jokes in this thread is just too daunting.

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Reged: 04/21/06 Posts: 2613 Loc: El Diablo Forum Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: TheMetetron] #8857623 - 01/22/07 12:08 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

"Can a non-Thai citizen own property there? Can i buy a house there?"

you can own a condo (i think it has to be like the 5th floor or higher or something silly like that) in a building where farang own less then 50% of the condos.

you cant own a condo in a farang >50% building or land, however there are some legal loopholes around this which probably arent all that safe. however, you can own a house, and lease the land for a very long contract if that makes sense? check www.thaivisa.com

(Asking Deg to create a new thread is ridiculous.)

you can play all sites, but with the latest gov actions you will still have the problems americans have about funding your account. you can play on party from thailand if you change your addy (rental bill and passport visa stamp)

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Reged: 10/01/04 Posts: 6721 Loc: Blogging in BsAs Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: fish2plus2] #8858131 - 01/22/07 12:53 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

KKF,

Is there actually information in this thread? I remember reading the first few pages and a lot of it was ZOMG GIRLS!!

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Quote: KKF,

Is there actually information in this thread? I remember reading the first few pages and a lot of it was ZOMG GIRLS!!

loads of info

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #8898701 - 01/24/07 08:13 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

3rd World Justice

I've heard all of the stories about the corrupt cops in the third world and the myriad risks to foreigners, but I'd never heard of this happening to anybody I knew, nor seen it myself, so I kinda brushed it off as hype and paranoia. Tonight that all changed:

Me and Zack went out dancing tonight. At 3:30 we left Scratch Dog on Sukumvit Soi 20 and headed for Boss club, an illegal after hours club. By 6:00 we had met a couple of whores who we were happy to drag home instead of going home alone. We escorted them to the taxi stand and promptly told the driver to take us to Pattaya, a beachside town that is not much more than a giant red-light district, about two hours away. It was pretty much a joke but the girls didn't seem to mind so we left it at that, negotiated a cheap fare and the driver headed toward the freeway.

We got on the freeway and I'm getting busy with one of the girls in the backseat when she says that she has to pee and the taxi driver should pull over. I tell him not to and the girl insists and then tells him to turn around to go to back to Bangkok. I then pulled out all of the money in my pocket and showed it to the driver (yes, yes, very arrogrant and an 'ugly american' thing to do, but its soooooooo easy), then the friend of the girl who was rubbing my [censored] took a quick snatch at my money and smiled as she shoved a hand in her pocket.

Continued:

http://grindblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/3rd-world-justice.html

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Reged: 04/26/04 Posts: 1246 Loc: Fanstastic Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #8898786 - 01/24/07 08:20 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Maybe grabbing hookers by the throat in a vehicle you aren't in control of is [censored] stupid. That could have turned out a lot worse.

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Reged: 09/19/05 Posts: 1110 Loc: Raleigh, NC Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: ChicagoTroy] #8916044 - 01/25/07 11:39 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

As [censored] up as that story is, you made about 10 awful decisions to get in that situation so its hard to say it is not your fault.

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Reged: 03/14/06 Posts: 1406 Loc: Must...bet...more! Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Ribsauce] #8923074 - 01/26/07 02:39 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Any chance you could post or PM the full story? You've obviously taken down the blog post.

I'll be in BKK in less than two weeks. Yay!!

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: dinopoker] #8932058 - 01/27/07 07:00 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Probably not a good idea to post it anywhere or share it. I was drunk when I put it up and that was ill advised.

Basically a hooker stole money from me so I grabbed her by the throat in a taxi and told her to give it back to me. Her friend took me to the cops against my wishes and I had to bribe my way out if it.

I am in no way proud of it and it was not a brag post, just lucky to have escaped (for less than $100) and it was pretty memorable.

A note to all planning on trips...Thailand gets really really [censored] hot in the summer months, better come soon or wait until next fall.

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Reged: 10/02/05 Posts: 1091 Loc: Thailand Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9038126 - 02/03/07 06:53 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Has there been a change to the 90 day visa rule? How are you getting around that?

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Quote: Has there been a change to the 90 day visa rule? How are you getting around that?

You can get a 60 day visa from a foreign embassy and extend that by 30 days in Thailand. You have to leave again to get another one. Popular spots in include:

Singapore, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Australia etc.

I look at it like a mandatory vacation every three months. No big deal.

Just got this question via AIM which hasn't been addressed in this thread:

Quote: 2+2er: yo was just reading thru a few pms from a while back from people from the forums about thailand is this true: "2) you *will* get travellers sickness and spend ~3 days running at both ends. This is an unavoidable facet of travel to most foreign countries"   degen: heh it is common    degen: but it isnt' gauranteed    degen: if you haven't spent time in asia, your stomach will likely get pissed at you for a couple of days    degen: i usually have diarhea the first week    2+2er: because of the food? or how come    degen: ya, the food, water etc. its not a big deal reallly, part of the charm

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Reged: 07/16/03 Posts: 1148 Loc: Andy B. '08 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9044181 - 02/04/07 10:11 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Yo I just spent two nights and 3 days in the hospital with diarrhea.. It was about my 6th case of it since i've been here in 6 months.. I won't go into the details, but it was really bad.

This time was just terrible, and I feared dehydration. So i checked myself in the hospital, and got on an IV hook-up...

had 1 TOTALLY HOT NURSE.......... Paid about 18000 baht for the visit... (It was the antibiotics that were quite expensive.)

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Reged: 05/10/04 Posts: 1184 Loc: Santa Monica Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: southerndog] #9044401 - 02/04/07 10:56 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Haven't read the thread, but just noticed that it has the most replies in OOT history.

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Quote: Haven't read the thread, but just noticed that it has the most replies in OOT history.

False.

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Reged: 10/02/05 Posts: 1091 Loc: Thailand Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9063418 - 02/05/07 07:29 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote:

Quote: Has there been a change to the 90 day visa rule? How are you getting around that?

You can get a 60 day visa from a foreign embassy and extend that by 30 days in Thailand. You have to leave again to get another one. Popular spots in include:

Singapore, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Australia etc.

I look at it like a mandatory vacation every three months. No big deal.

Just got this question via AIM which hasn't been addressed in this thread:

Quote: 2+2er: yo was just reading thru a few pms from a while back from people from the forums about thailand is this true: "2) you *will* get travellers sickness and spend ~3 days running at both ends. This is an unavoidable facet of travel to most foreign countries"       degen: heh it is common        degen: but it isnt' gauranteed        degen: if you haven't spent time in asia, your stomach will likely get pissed at you for a couple of days        degen: i usually have diarhea the first week        2+2er: because of the food? or how come        degen: ya, the food, water etc. its not a big deal reallly, part of the charm

I have heard that you can only stay 90 out of every 120 or 180 days. From your response it seems this is false. You only need to leave briefly to renew the visa, as before?

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Quote:

Quote:

Quote: Has there been a change to the 90 day visa rule? How are you getting around that?

You can get a 60 day visa from a foreign embassy and extend that by 30 days in Thailand. You have to leave again to get another one. Popular spots in include:

Singapore, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Australia etc.

I look at it like a mandatory vacation every three months. No big deal.

Just got this question via AIM which hasn't been addressed in this thread:

Quote: 2+2er: yo was just reading thru a few pms from a while back from people from the forums about thailand is this true: "2) you *will* get travellers sickness and spend ~3 days running at both ends. This is an unavoidable facet of travel to most foreign countries"           degen: heh it is common            degen: but it isnt' gauranteed            degen: if you haven't spent time in asia, your stomach will likely get pissed at you for a couple of days            degen: i usually have diarhea the first week            2+2er: because of the food? or how come            degen: ya, the food, water etc. its not a big deal reallly, part of the charm

I have heard that you can only stay 90 out of every 120 or 180 days. From your response it seems this is false. You only need to leave briefly to renew the visa, as before?

There are two common ways of getting visa's in Thailand:

1. Getting a 30-day visa on entry to the country, or by doing a 'border run' to a neighboring country and getting your passport stamped and returning the same day.

2. Going to the Thai embassy in a different country and applying for a 60-day non-immigration visa.

They recently put a restriction on #1 so that you can only do this three times within a 180 day period. So that means taht in any 180 days, if you do border runs or receive your 30 day visa upon entry, you can spend 90 days in thailand but you must also spend 90 outside of thailand.

My theory is that they did this to get rid of all of the poor undocumented 'teachers' and other low-lifes with no money in thailand, including 75 year old whore mongers living on $400 a month in government money from another country.

Anyway, if you select #2 then you are fine. You can get this extended for 30 days from inside of Thailand and it is basically a 90 day visa. You can keep getting these until the end of time.

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Reged: 10/15/06 Posts: 48 Loc: UK Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9117206 - 02/09/07 01:00 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Just arrived in bangkok, here are my observaions.

Don't drop cigrette butts on the floor near policemen. Instant 2K baht fine.

Dont be taken in by english speaking thais showing you round the sights and then offering you food at a restaurant. Trust me, the bill will be extortionate. Refuse to pay and you will enjoy the company of well built doormen.

Taxis on the meter are cheaper than Tuk Tuks.

Don't bring a full bag. Everything is soooooooooo cheap, you could arrive without a bag and still be just fine.

If you plan to take a night train north to chiang mai, book well in advance as they fill up pretty quickly.

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Reged: 05/19/05 Posts: 2127 Loc: Vientiane Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: loxsmith] #9121404 - 02/09/07 06:25 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

I'll be heading to Thailand for a while in mid to late March. Would anyone be interested in getting a place together?

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Quote: Just arrived in bangkok, here are my observaions.

Don't drop cigrette butts on the floor near policemen. Instant 2K baht fine.

Dont be taken in by english speaking thais showing you round the sights and then offering you food at a restaurant. Trust me, the bill will be extortionate. Refuse to pay and you will enjoy the company of well built doormen.

Taxis on the meter are cheaper than Tuk Tuks.

Don't bring a full bag. Everything is soooooooooo cheap, you could arrive without a bag and still be just fine.

If you plan to take a night train north to chiang mai, book well in advance as they fill up pretty quickly.

Holy [censored]. I hope this is laden with sarcasm.

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Reged: 12/20/06 Posts: 101 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9123517 - 02/09/07 09:49 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

hey Degen, where are those hot girl pics u promised?

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hey just read the whole thread, now i got a problem: I really want to go to Thailand -.-

So i just decided i'll go to thailand in november-january. What is the best way to travel through the country.

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Quote:

Quote: Haven't read the thread, but just noticed that it has the most replies in OOT history.

False.

link to prove it wrong plz

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I didn't know diarrhea was such a problem. I never got anything close it while there for 3 months.

Quote: Taxis on the meter are cheaper than Tuk Tuks.

on this note, did anyone ever go to the big gold buddah or whatever every tuk tuk driver around khao san tries to drag you too. I was sure it was some type of scam so I never did but I'm curious what it was.

Quote: Don't drop cigrette butts on the floor near policemen. Instant 2K baht fine.

I have not dropped a single butt or match on the ground since I arrived in Thailand including the 4 months I have been in America since returning. I never got caught either, just heard about it.

Anyways, I might be going to work in the middle east and if so I'm going to try to catch a full moon party sometime if it falls on my vacation time. I'll be sure to hit you guys up if I get lucky enough to get a 10 day vacation in Thailand. God I miss it

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Do Thai people realize that we don't have this kind of buying power in our home countries? Or do they just think we're rich people who happen to be vacationing it Thailand?

Theoretically, if I wanted to bang 24 hookers in 24 hours for my 24th birthday, how much would it set me back? Assume slightly above average doable hookers, nothing premium.

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Quote:

Quote:

Quote: Haven't read the thread, but just noticed that it has the most replies in OOT history.

False.

link to prove it wrong plz

LINK!

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Quote: Theoretically, if I wanted to bang 24 hookers in 24 hours for my 24th birthday, how much would it set me back?

About 100K in medical bills?

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Quote: Do Thai people realize that we don't have this kind of buying power in our home countries? Or do they just think we're rich people who happen to be vacationing it Thailand?

Theoretically, if I wanted to bang 24 hookers in 24 hours for my 24th birthday, how much would it set me back? Assume slightly above average doable hookers, nothing premium.

That's a funny thing to try on your 24th. i'd budget at least 50,000 baht but i like to splurge a little and i'm picky about whores.

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on this note, did anyone ever go to the big gold buddah or whatever every tuk tuk driver around khao san tries to drag you too. I was sure it was some type of scam so I never did but I'm curious what it was.

Yes, I have been there a couple of times. It's the coolest gold buddha in BKK in my opinion because it is SOLID GOLD. That's Right. Not gold leafed like all the others. It's about 3 meters tall. Sick.

Quote: Don't drop cigrette butts on the floor near policemen. Instant 2K baht fine.

Hah.. yea the cops near MBK tried to get us on that one time. They just hang out waiting to bust people. My friend had some connections with higher ups in the Police Dept. We just showed them the business card and they let us go all laughs and smiles... good ol thailand.

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Reged: 05/19/05 Posts: 2127 Loc: Vientiane Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: 328ifly] #9173205 - 02/13/07 09:29 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

How reliable is internet access in Phuket? What would be the best way for two farang to get a house/apartment without getting ripped off?

I think you mentioned that you can't get adderall at the pharmacies. Can you get any kind of stimulants? How about modafinil? Not that I would do this, but could you just walk in and buy something really hard-core like liquid morphine?

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Quote: How reliable is internet access in Phuket? What would be the best way for two farang to get a house/apartment without getting ripped off?

I spent a month in two condos with very reliable high speed DSL access. One even with wireless so I could use my laptop on the patio overlooking the fishing boats coming in during sunset at Kamala Beach. Power outages were more common than the net being down.

My family rented through ads in the Phuket Gazette, from other foreigners. Prices ranged, but there are deals to be had. The chances of getting ripped off are pretty slim as there is a pretty big rental market there and word gets round fast, I imagine. We honestly had more issues with the owners of a place we rented in Hawaii a month later.

The internet was set up by the condo complex itself at one place, and by the owners of the other condo we were at. Unlimited at both. We even met a 30-something guy who was doing 'day trading' (code for poker?) in the evenings after spear fishing, sailing and snorkelling all day...so the connection had to have been pretty solid.

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Reged: 03/31/04 Posts: 1470 Loc: Chicago burbs Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: octopi] #9176111 - 02/14/07 01:36 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Well, I'm leaving for thailand this friday.... ship me the side saddle asian hotties!

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: octopi] #9176861 - 02/14/07 03:13 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

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Quote: Just arrived in bangkok, here are my observaions.

Don't drop cigrette butts on the floor near policemen. Instant 2K baht fine.

Dont be taken in by english speaking thais showing you round the sights and then offering you food at a restaurant. Trust me, the bill will be extortionate. Refuse to pay and you will enjoy the company of well built doormen.

Taxis on the meter are cheaper than Tuk Tuks.

Don't bring a full bag. Everything is soooooooooo cheap, you could arrive without a bag and still be just fine.

If you plan to take a night train north to chiang mai, book well in advance as they fill up pretty quickly.

Holy [censored]. I hope this is laden with sarcasm.

oct, haven't you been here?

that post is 100% on point. i recently sent just about the exact same thing to dino in an email

dino you gonna give us a trip report?

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9176971 - 02/14/07 03:29 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Super busy and don't have time to reply to all of this stuff.

3 2+2ers that I know of in Thailand now, several more on the way in the next month.

The fact that I had some small part in that makes me very proud and happy. I hope you all find this country as amazing as I do.

AND I ALSO HOPE THAT YOU ALL GIVE US TRIP REPORTS AND PICTURES

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Quote: Just arrived in bangkok, here are my observaions.

Don't drop cigrette butts on the floor near policemen. Instant 2K baht fine.

Dont be taken in by english speaking thais showing you round the sights and then offering you food at a restaurant. Trust me, the bill will be extortionate. Refuse to pay and you will enjoy the company of well built doormen.

Taxis on the meter are cheaper than Tuk Tuks.

Don't bring a full bag. Everything is soooooooooo cheap, you could arrive without a bag and still be just fine.

If you plan to take a night train north to chiang mai, book well in advance as they fill up pretty quickly.

Holy [censored]. I hope this is laden with sarcasm.

oct, haven't you been here?

that post is 100% on point. i recently sent just about the exact same thing to dino in an email

I thought about this after and I think I used the wrong word. I just think it's funny that someone actually fell for all of the most classic scams in the book (except the cig butt thing, is that new?) and obviously didn't receive or listen to the most basic advice there is when you go to Thailand. Seemed odd to me.

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Reged: 05/19/05 Posts: 2127 Loc: Vientiane Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: octopi] #9225522 - 02/17/07 08:50 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

A couple more random questions: Will I be able to get quality imported beer and good bourbon anywhere? Does Bangkok have any upmarket liquor stores? I'd be willing to pay a premium.

According to wikitravel, "police occasionally raid bars, subjecting all customers to drug tests." Wtf, does this actually happen? Nothing kills my buzz like like men with guns demanding I piss into a cup while they watch. What happens if you test positive but don't have anything on you?

I started learning Thai and have a question for those who speak some. Do you use the politeness word (sounds like "krahp" for male speakers) when starting conversations with everyone? What about little kids or people my own age I meet at a bar? At what point in the conversation do you stop using it?

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Booze, you can get it all there I'm sure. Go to the upscale markets and spend all you want. They have imports from all over.

Cop raids. They do this sometimes. They will roll up to a club and slap a big lock on the door and test everyone inside. The moral of this story is don't be stupid and do drugs in Bangkok. There is plenty of fun to be had getting drunk with girls. You don't want to have your e buzz blown by going to some detention center and wondering how long you are going to be in jail in thailand. -EV

Krhap or khap (sounds like kap usually) is used all the time. it's like a period at the end of a sentance if you are a guy. If you are a girl or katoey, say kha instead. You pretty much never stop using it. I have heard thais talking to each other and instead of 'uh huh' or yea the listener is saying khap, khap... khap.. i think i even heard one guy say khappity khap khap one time!

khrap kun khrap - thank you sawadi khrap - hello yindee khrap - nice to meet you dao rai khrap - how much

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Some more videos:

(I've just uploaded these so if they don't work, try back in a little while)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTBQ3fgnS2Q

150 seconds of footage on a random street in Bangkok. IMO a pretty good 'feel' for what the real Bangkok looks and sounds like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl3-VdPjQVI

A typical setting on the Thai islands. This is Koh Phi Phi Don.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7AbCqZFiD8

Beautiful resort we stayed at on Phi Phi. About $100 US per night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlrZz0cm-PI

This was absolutely amazing. I seriously want my ashes spread in this cove on Koh Phi Phi Ley. So beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72FyJ3ViFwo

This is the other side of Phi Phi Lay, 'The Beach' with Leonardo DiCaprio was filmed here.

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bump

video's finally work

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Reged: 09/27/05 Posts: 3571 Loc: Mid-Life Crisis Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9242219 - 02/19/07 02:19 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Are you staing through the rainy season?

If not, where will you go?

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You need to get a video to capture the feel of 100 motor scooters working their way through stopped traffic to get at the front of the line when the light turns green then all roaring off in and out of traffic.

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I'm surprised by the number of high-end cars on that Bangkok street. I was under the impression the tarifs are sick.

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Quote: A couple more random questions: Will I be able to get quality imported beer and good bourbon anywhere? Does Bangkok have any upmarket liquor stores? I'd be willing to pay a premium.

I started learning Thai and have a question for those who speak some. Do you use the politeness word (sounds like "krahp" for male speakers) when starting conversations with everyone? What about little kids or people my own age I meet at a bar? At what point in the conversation do you stop using it?

There are some very high end wine shops and liquor stores in Phuket in particular. Can't remember exact brands etc, and you might pay a pretty penny, but might be able to find what you are looking for. Just remember the liquor buying hours.

I always use the polite term when speaking and don't really ever drop it mostly because I like to use it as an affirmative answer. Like when in a taxi and asked "Do you want off here?" "Ka, kup khun ka" sort of deal. This may have to do with my Canadian passport, though. Not completely sure what you mean when 'starting conversation' though. Do you just mean when you first meet someone, or as a way to open a conversation?

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Quote: I'm surprised by the number of high-end cars on that Bangkok street. I was under the impression the tarifs are sick.

heh you're right. maybe that party isn't so 'typical'. that is sukumvit 22 which is a rather affluent area, right next to a very very expensive mall (Emporium) with like Louis Vuitton and Rolex shops etc.

Most streets do not have that many nice cars. It is actually mostly Taxi's.

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Reged: 05/01/06 Posts: 2036 Loc: nowhere Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Ribsauce] #9251820 - 02/20/07 06:08 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: You need to get a video to capture the feel of 100 motor scooters working their way through stopped traffic to get at the front of the line when the light turns green then all roaring off in and out of traffic.

Not a vid, but a pic as starting point...

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Reged: 11/18/05 Posts: 259 Loc: Sky Valley Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: kazana] #9252412 - 02/20/07 08:37 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Can help with a pic also...i was there in january this year...

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Damn... now I miss that place again. Gotta check ticket prices...

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It's really cold in Stockholm today. Why am I not on a beach in Thailand? Seriously, why not?

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Quote: You need to get a video to capture the feel of 100 motor scooters working their way through stopped traffic to get at the front of the line when the light turns green then all roaring off in and out of traffic.

Not a vid, but a pic as starting point...

Is that like a race or something? I can't recall ever seeing that many bikes in one place lol

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Nah, no race. That pic was taken June or July 2005 in the Chinese district (can't remember the name) west of Hualamphong station.

I'm surprised you haven't seen that before. I've seen scenes like that a couple of times every day on bkk's streets. Virtually at every red traffic light.

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Degen how have you never seen that? Its always like that. If you are off sukumvit near the 30's (I think 38 is the big one, maybe 52?) the motorcycles are always in a pack of about 50. Every time the light turns red they just all weave through the cars to get to the front and by the time it is green again abut 50 of them are at the front of the line and they just roar off. This doesn't seem to happen in the other parts of Bangkok. The only other place I saw it was Chiang Mai.

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Ok, I've always wondered..... From my conceptions, it's always appeared as if the typical "farang" that visits Thailand isn't the typical person we'd look up to and admire here in the states. Often it seems to be the opposite. Now, are my conceptions way off in regards to Thailand travelers or are the Farang that they so much adore really our scummy lower class (probably taking it too far)? For instance, is it simply "Farang" in general, or do the Farang still have to show some degree of nobleness to be respected and hailed? Explanations? Ellaborations? Thanks.

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What's good. I'm going back to the motherland in late march and staying for at least a month or more. Holla at me if yall want to chill. Degen? KKF? Any 2p2ers and anybody for that matter. Just holla.

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Degen, thanks a lot for this thread. Thailand seems like such an awesome place and I am definitely going to be visiting there soon.

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Quote: Ok, I've always wondered..... From my conceptions, it's always appeared as if the typical "farang" that visits Thailand isn't the typical person we'd look up to and admire here in the states. Often it seems to be the opposite. Now, are my conceptions way off in regards to Thailand travelers or are the Farang that they so much adore really our scummy lower class (probably taking it too far)? For instance, is it simply "Farang" in general, or do the Farang still have to show some degree of nobleness to be respected and hailed? Explanations? Ellaborations? Thanks.

There's a decent amount of truth to this generalization, and is one of the things i had reservations about moving here myself..

Just look at some of the discussion this thread.. "Holy crap, I'm a total tool in the states, and i'll get treated like Michael Jordan there just because I'm white??" The fact is, its true, u can get laid here just because an assumption that u have money, are different etc.. And why not, Thai women are beautiful. So, for the reason that people can live much better here than in their own country, and bang way hotter chicks, it will attract a different breed.

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Quote: Ok, I've always wondered..... From my conceptions, it's always appeared as if the typical "farang" that visits Thailand isn't the typical person we'd look up to and admire here in the states. Often it seems to be the opposite. Now, are my conceptions way off in regards to Thailand travelers or are the Farang that they so much adore really our scummy lower class (probably taking it too far)? For instance, is it simply "Farang" in general, or do the Farang still have to show some degree of nobleness to be respected and hailed? Explanations? Ellaborations? Thanks.

It is really tough to make generalizations. Thailand has so much to offer.

A friend of mine refered to Koh Samui is "misfit island" I think it is really acurate. Everyone who comes here to live for some reason feels they fit better here than their home country.

Possible reasons to be a "misfit"

-Too ugly and anti social -Sick of having to work your ass off in your home country and just want to relax in a beautiful place -Like Thai culture more than your own. -See investment opportunities in thailand that are greater than those in your country.

Theres tons more, but there are all kinds of "misfits" living here. For reasons that can be good or bad or a combination.

I've met all kinds of interesting peolpe that I really enjoy talking with that I never would have met in the US. I've also met many that I wanna punch in the face.

Most thais I've talked too like "farang" but are scared to get any closer to us than we get to them.

Many thais have a hard time telling which farang are scumbags in their own country (and every where else) and which aren't. I often have the same trouble with thais unless I really get to know them just because of the language and culture barriers.

I find many similarities between most thai people and people in rural US. Imagine French millionaires coming into a small town in kentucky. I think basically same reaction.

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Ok, I think I understand the whole visa renewal/border run/Thai embassy thing once I'm in the country, but will I be fine if I just get the 30-day tourist visa on arrival? I'll be coming in mid-March for about 4 months. Should I try to get a 60- or 90-day visa initially?

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Quote: Another beautiful day in our little bit of Issan. When I awoke early this morning there was as usual the village symphony of birds chirping, cockerels crowing, buffalo bellowing, soi dogs barking, cows mooing all presenting their flawless performance of Mother Nature's morning chorus. However, today was different, in the distance I could hear a strange sound Ive never heard before. I poked the wife to wake the lazy bitch and asked, whats going on out there. After she raised one ear from the pillow her response was, Oh farmer making baby with cow or kwai. What !!!!!!!!! was that ? Yes them have big man cow come and cost money to make baby;

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Quote: Ok, I think I understand the whole visa renewal/border run/Thai embassy thing once I'm in the country, but will I be fine if I just get the 30-day tourist visa on arrival? I'll be coming in mid-March for about 4 months. Should I try to get a 60- or 90-day visa initially?

Nope, just show up with your passport.

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Quote: Ok, I've always wondered..... From my conceptions, it's always appeared as if the typical "farang" that visits Thailand isn't the typical person we'd look up to and admire here in the states. Often it seems to be the opposite. Now, are my conceptions way off in regards to Thailand travelers or are the Farang that they so much adore really our scummy lower class (probably taking it too far)? For instance, is it simply "Farang" in general, or do the Farang still have to show some degree of nobleness to be respected and hailed? Explanations? Ellaborations? Thanks.

It isn't a scummy lower class. Most farang over here have college degree's and either have good jobs/income streams or used to have them and gave them up to live here.

There are lots of poor teachers as well but they all have degree's as well, def not a scummy lower class either.

I'd say that those living here tend to be more sexually deviant than those back home, probably lower ethics and morals overall, maybe a bit more racist etc Also a lot of really fat dudes or dudes w/ like speech impedements and stuff, cuz they get lots more ass here then they get back home.

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Quote: do the Farang still have to show some degree of nobleness to be respected and hailed?

I think it's kinda like innocent until proven guilty. If they see you making out with some bargirl on the Sky Train, they are going to assume you are a d-bag. If you dress conservatively, respect local culture and traditions and behave modestly in public etc, they'll have a great deal of respect for you.

The security guards in my building view me with some mix of amusement, envy, jealousy, contempt and bewilderment. No matter what though, when I'm coming in at 4am with the flavor of the day, all they do is stand up and salute me.

Point being, Thai's are pretty good about masking their emotions and helping others (and themselves) to save face. So unless you are a huge donkey, you likely wont even know if the Thai's look down on you.

Ski's analogy was a good one...another would be your Boss at work who you have respect for until you see him get really drunk and bang a ladyboy and spill nachos all over himself and get a DUI. After that he's still your boss, but its a bit different

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9295642 - 02/23/07 01:28 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Anyone find themselves speaking or typing like a Thai chic without realizing it?

For instance 'go now' 'not have' 'cannot'

I use these and similar things in places where I used to speak full or at least partical sentences.

Also when I type emails and such I keep seeing stuff like this after I read what I've written:

'I go before and it was cool, not sure if i do it again or not'

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Reged: 06/14/06 Posts: 69 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9304258 - 02/23/07 05:24 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

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Quote: Ok, I think I understand the whole visa renewal/border run/Thai embassy thing once I'm in the country, but will I be fine if I just get the 30-day tourist visa on arrival? I'll be coming in mid-March for about 4 months. Should I try to get a 60- or 90-day visa initially?

Nope, just show up with your passport.

If you are in the USA... I would get a tourist visa if it isn't too much of a pain and since you have enough time. If you are in california, you USPS with paid return express your passport to the thai embassy in los angeles and get it back pretty quick with the visa in there. It's not that difficult, just fill out the form, stick a picture on there, money order and you are set. I never had to include copies of my plane tix.

http://www.thai-la.net/consu_info/consu_info.htm

If you don't get a tourist visa, you are going to have to do at least 3 border crossings to stay there for 4 months. they can be a pain in the ass. if you are in Bangkok, the bus takes about 3.5 hours to get to the Cambodian border (closest) then you hang out for a bit, play some roulette and ride back. It pretty much takes up a day to do it. Leave at 9am get back around 6pm. Doing that every 30 days can get old fast.

If you get a 60 day tourist visa from a thai embassy in the USA before you leave, you pay 25$ per entry. you can get a single reentry tourist visa and you don't have to leave thailand for 90 days. After 60 days you go to the immigration office, pay the extension fee 1900 baht and then get 30 days more. usually done in about 20 mins. After that 30 days you could extend for 2 more weeks but at that point it is probably better to just cross a border and get a new 30 day stamp and go from there.

The usual border run/visa run bus services charge 2000baht (about $50) here is one I used to take:

http://www.thaivisarun.com/

Hope you have tons of fun in BKK..have a good trip!

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Reged: 11/29/06 Posts: 64 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: beats] #9306279 - 02/23/07 08:54 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Lol @ Degen. So true. So very, very true. Your english will suffer. That's the price you must pay to ship Thailand.

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Reged: 04/21/06 Posts: 2613 Loc: El Diablo Forum Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: imthaifool] #9309908 - 02/24/07 05:50 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

re: respect, if you go to a shopping mall and see a farang with a thai girl, the odds that she is a prostitute are:

Farang over 40 yo = 95% chance Farang > 30 yo = 80% chance Farang 20-30 yo = 66% chance

So I think thai people respect farang about as much as you can respect someone walking around a shopping mall with a prostitute.

((im not trying to talk bad about prostitutes. i could really care less; i am just trying to give you a thai person's perspective))

Also, there are millions of farang in thailand. its not like you are a sight unseen - unless you get into the rural regions.

you can discuss all of this boring stuff endlessly on www.thaivisa.com/forum, although the only time i post there is to troll: having a conversation with those guys makes me want to jump infront of the bts.

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: fish2plus2] #9310086 - 02/24/07 06:39 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: having a conversation with those guys makes me want to jump infront of the bts

hehe serously, try Ajarn. Bunch of pissed off teachers who hate Thailand.

Pretty sure I saw some of your posts on ThaiVisa.

"I'm an independently wealthy professional gambler and you guys are all tools'

Entire forum: '[censored] you!! you are so FOS! came her to lie and feel cool, go back to your hut!'

'lol, what if that was true, wouldn't that be funny?'

Pretty sure ThaiVisa is mostly bent old dudes who live here on Social Security. It is pretty good for Visa info etc though.

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9310094 - 02/24/07 06:41 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

I kinda want to start a post on ThaiVisa, BarLadies and Ajarn linking to this thread.

Bad idea?

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Reged: 03/17/06 Posts: 122 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9314035 - 02/24/07 04:33 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Hey Degen, first off I just wanted to thank you for all your info in this thread and on your blog. Good stuff.

I am thinking of taking the plunge and moving to Thailand and I had a couple questions.

A little background info: I am white. I am from a somewhat well-to-do upper middle class family. I live in Virginia. I drive a new benz (I think the exact same one as you). I am very social. I have tons of friends here in the U.S. I make over 100K a year from poker. I have other business ventures that I am involved in that cause me to travel worldwide about 1/4 of the year.

I also have travelled worldwide extensively and have even lived in India and Pakistan for a total of 2 years on business. So I know what to expect in 3rd world countries. I also understand the power of the dollar and how americans are viewed etc.

There are 2 main issues I am facing.


 * 1) 1) Thailand vs others (Carribean, Bahamas, Hawaii etc.)

The main thing that thailand entices me with is the value of my money. Having an income of over $100K and living in Thailand I could live very very well. In the carribean, my money is nothing special. Everyone vacationing in the carribean or hawaii has tons of money and things are quite expensive (golf, food, real estate)

However, there are some downsides that I see to Thailand. For example, friends wont be able to visit me as easily as if I was in the carribean. How do you deal with that? I mean do you have friends in the U.S. that you are losing touch with being so far away? I want to get a place that friends want to come visit and the flight price and travel time makes it tough.

I would just appreciate any thoughts you have on thailand vs other closer more expensive resort destinations. I am sure you have put some thought into why you chose thailand over these other places.

Issue #2) If Thailand, what real estate should I get. I have done some looking online and found some houses that I would love that are in my price range.

Here are 2 examples: http://www.siamrealestate.com/property/propage.php?n=1474 http://www.siamrealestate.com/property/propage.php?n=1794

So then the question becomes location. Is having a sweet house like that optimal, or is location more important. Those houses are in Phuket, but should I be looking for something less nice, but right on the beach? I might have some friends moving there with me and people visiting so I want a social place, but something close to some bars and such. Obviously another option would be a condo/apt right in the heart of the action. That would allow us to be closer to everything, but wouldn't be as nice of a place. Do people ever throw parties at their own houses anyways? Or is it pretty much just at bars and clubs?

Anyways your thoughts on location and real estate would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Dave_K] #9315737 - 02/24/07 07:39 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: Friends wont be able to visit me as easily as if I was in the carribean.How do you deal with that?

I start a blog and 1,500 post thread on 2+2 to tell everybody how awesome it is, and they come and visit

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I would just appreciate any thoughts you have on thailand vs other closer more expensive resort destinations. I am sure you have put some thought into why you chose thailand over these other places.

Hard to put a finger on it. I just love it here.

I've been to a lot of places and this is the one that feels the most right. I think I just click with Asia though because I spent a week or so in Japan and loved that as well, if it were cheaper there I may be living there now.

I'm about to do one month through Asia and who knows, i might find someplace i like even better than thailand.

As I've said in this thread about 100 times, i think it would be foolish to move some place you've never been to, especially if that place is going to be as drastically different from your home country/city/life as this is sure to be.

Dino just came here and had high hopes of maybe moving here or who knows...he left earlier than expected and told me 'i like thailand, but i just like america better'

I [censored] hate america, so different strokes for different folks.

Quote: If Thailand, what real estate should I get. I have done some looking online and found some houses that I would love that are in my price range.

My advice? Don't buy anything until you do some research and have lived here for a long time. If a house is in your price range you likely are lying about your financial status or the site you found is designed to rip guys like you off.

I'm still unsure if I'll buy here or not, many negative factors you just don't have to deal with in the US. Don't buy for a long while

www.thaivisa.com has some good resources on this

as for location, only you can answer that...come here and travel for a month or two and see what you like best.

best of luck

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Quote: Good stuff.

Here's a random pic from Qbar circa 2004.

Now everyone go on vacation ASAP and party with Degen!

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: beats] #9324874 - 02/25/07 05:48 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Still looks exactly the same

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9324895 - 02/25/07 05:50 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

I'm going to go on advice strike if people don't start posting trip reports. I know of 4 people in Thailand currently and 7+ who have been here recently.

COME ON, HOW WAS IT??

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Reged: 03/26/05 Posts: 4231 Loc: USA Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9325104 - 02/25/07 06:06 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

thailand rocks everything is beautiful and cheap. food is good Bill is nice, fun, and laid back.

P.s. if you are traveling to beaches, Taxi is a nice alternative to bus if you are tired of sitting in cramped bus.

but bus gives you a chance to meet people

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: veganmav] #9325163 - 02/25/07 06:10 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: everything is beautiful

don't lie to them. the parts in between all of the beautiful stuff are pretty run down for the most part. 3rd world and all.

Quote:

but bus gives you a chance to meet people

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Reged: 11/29/06 Posts: 64 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9327639 - 02/25/07 09:05 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

WTF even Veganmav went? Damn.

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Reged: 02/12/07 Posts: 43 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: imthaifool] #9345393 - 02/26/07 11:35 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

i just read this in one sitting, iam not sure if that means i have incredible stamina or i just need a life. great thread tho regardless`

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Can you access Epassporte and the remaining US poker sites without a problem?

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Reged: 03/15/05 Posts: 6291 Loc: Krung Thep, Siam Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: WhoIam] #9349284 - 02/27/07 07:50 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Quote: Can you access Epassporte and the remaining US poker sites without a problem?

i can

i was also able to get Party, FTP and Bodog to change my address to Thailand and open up a Thai MoneyBookers account. On this MoneyBookers account I was able to list my Thai Savings account as the Primary payment method and my American Checking Account as the secondardy payment method.

Funds haven't hit my US checking account yet so not sure if this is fool proof or not.

Also please don't share this info outside of PM's or this thread, hopefully only the hardcore Thailanders will read it.

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Reged: 04/21/06 Posts: 2613 Loc: El Diablo Forum Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Degen] #9383092 - 03/01/07 03:24 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

dont invest in thailand right now. there is supposed to a recession coming up in the USA, the thai baht is very strong vs the dollar, many countries are decresaing their investments in thailand, the country is a political mess right now, everyday something new is going wrong, yesterday the finance minister resigned... i mean, atleast wait until there is a democratically elected government - who knows when? oh yeah, the southern insurgency is peaking.

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Reged: 12/12/05 Posts: 326 Loc: bangkok Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: fish2plus2] #9404934 - 03/03/07 06:27 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

TICKET BOOKED, I COME THAILAND NOW

only for 30something days. this thread prob stood for 90% of the decision to go, loloz. ty

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Reged: 04/06/06 Posts: 212 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: kaah] #9424363 - 03/04/07 11:29 PM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post9421361

Some idiot just banned Degen.

Show your support and never post in that forum again and tell PokerAddict what a fool he is.

And where is the love NT! Guy created the longest active thread in OOT history (and 2nd longest overall) and has helped countless 2+2ers visit and move to Thailand, and you can't help him out?

Pretty gay. (probably get another * for that but it had to be said...)

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Reged: 03/05/07 Posts: 73 Loc: Bangkok, Thailand Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: Falang] #9427412 - 03/05/07 05:18 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

"http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post9421361

Some idiot just banned Degen.

Show your support and never post in that forum again and tell PokerAddict what a fool he is.

And where is the love NT! Guy created the longest active thread in OOT history (and 2nd longest overall) and has helped countless 2+2ers visit and move to Thailand, and you can't help him out?

Pretty gay. (probably get another * for that but it had to be said...)"

I said in my first post, that it would be my last post...but after reading through all that Degen offered in this thread alone...[censored] this forum...Degen deserves better.

Anyway, I'm from Boston...have lived in Thailand for 3 years...and the hot 17 year that Degen boned without a condom came from my bar.

I love Thailand and recommend that all of you at least give it a try. I also recommend boycotting this site until they let him back on...Most of you won't, but I know I will.

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Reged: 01/01/07 Posts: 7 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: DontTapTheGlass] #9458524 - 03/07/07 08:03 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Wow, great stuff guys and those girls, huh.

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I dunno sounds like Degen was warned several times.

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Quote: hot 17 year that Degen boned without a condom came from my bar.

I thought the girls have to be 18 to work in the bars?

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http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader2006/reader2621.htm

apocryphal tale/urban legend or true story?

P.S. I've been to Thailand, so you guys can ask me some questions too.

I'll post in more detail later, here're some short answers to what I've read so far:

1. Doesn't matter what race you are, if you show a woman genuine kindness, she'll be smart enough to see that, especially in Thailand.

2. Forget about the drivers licence if you stay less than 3 months, it's a no brainer, just headaches and danger.

I didn't need a licence for a moped, but I heard of two or three stories (and saw flesh ripped off thighs) of people getting 'road rash' abrasions on their legs from reckless driving on wet pavement on rented mopeds in no traffic.

So don't go ape when you get to paradise, slow and steady...

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Reged: 02/13/06 Posts: 1184 Loc: traveling Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: seemorenuts] #9514390 - 03/11/07 08:44 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Seemorenuts: Do men in Thailand hate white Americans for taking their women?

Edited by nutsflopper (03/11/07 09:13 AM)

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Your not going to get a response. He's been perma banned.

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Reged: 04/21/06 Posts: 2613 Loc: El Diablo Forum Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: kassdog] #9514818 - 03/11/07 10:46 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Thai men dont hate farang. there arent that many farang in thailand, and most of them are dating the same girls!

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Great thread, Degen and Fish2 and others. My 40 year old brother, who I mentioned this thread to, talked to a freind who just got back from Thailand and now is thinking about moving there. He has a $10 an hour deadend job, is getting a Junior College degree and has no savings. His friend told him about teaching English as a second Language job. Anyone know what that pays in Thailand? Can you get a job? My Brother mentioned there is a course to get accreditted, anyone know about that? I told him to read this thread. I appreciate any help. Thanks Guys!!!

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there is tons of info online about teaching like ajarn.com and stickmanbangkok.com

i dont know that much about it except it pays badly, but not that bad, probably around 40k/month for someone without a degree. if i had the choice of USA on $10/hr or english in Thailand - well, its not really much of a decision, thailand all the way. actually, he might want to look into vietnam too.

.....

Tata Young was looking fine as hell at the music festival in pattaya the other day.

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Newteabag and I just got a fairly baller place place in Phuket. It's a 10-minute walk from Patong beach, but far enough away that we can't see or hear anything from where we are. At 35k baht/month, it's not a fantastic deal, but it's not bad for high-end Phuket real estate. I've been sick and nothing exciting has happened, but I'll update when it does.

Our place

The backyard

Front porch

Kitchen

Fridge stocked with Singha, Thai iced coffee, Thai redbull, etc.

Our upstairs living room

My bedroom (door to bathroom behind me)

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Quote: Newteabag and I just got a fairly baller place place in Phuket. It's a 10-minute walk from Patong beach, but far enough away that we can't see or hear anything from where we are. At 35k baht/month, it's not a fantastic deal, but it's not bad for high-end Phuket real estate. I've been sick and nothing exciting has happened, but I'll update when it does.

that looks like an a really nice place. i just did the conversion though and thought the real estate market was cheaper than that. works out to US$1002 on the website i plugged the numbers into.

im also curious what the mood is among the locals in phuket since the tsunami. how has the tsunami impacted the culture years later? im sure they are still grieving their losses and there are countless broken families. when youve been there long enough to understand some of this, id like to know more about this.

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Quote: that looks like an a really nice place. i just did the conversion though and thought the real estate market was cheaper than that. works out to US$1002 on the website i plugged the numbers into.

im also curious what the mood is among the locals in phuket since the tsunami. how has the tsunami impacted the culture years later? im sure they are still grieving their losses and there are countless broken families. when youve been there long enough to understand some of this, id like to know more about this.

We could have gotten more bang for our baht elsewhere, but decided we'd be happier spending a few hundred more a month for a place we really liked. For example, we could have rented rooms at the hotel we stayed at when we first came to Phuket for 4500 baht/month (~$130). This would have included an air-conditioned room with queen-sized bed, fridge, TV, bathroom, and regular maid service. I would go crazy if my living quarters consisted of a single room, but some people would find this arrangement ideal. The place we're at now has the perfect location--in the middle of the jungle with three other units but a 2-minute scooter ride to civilization (and the beach!). We looked at some pretty ridic houses that were cheap but unfortunately far from everything else. Phuket is also a resort destination so everything's going to be more expensive than the mainland. Our lease is month-to-month so we can leave if we find a better deal somewhere.

Newteabag's Thai gf is staying with us and she has some local friends. The disaster is something I'm curious about so I'll try to ask them about it at some point. Supposedly water went several kilometers inland. We're high up on a hill so I'm not worried about a repeat.

For those who have spent time in Thailand: Is 3,000 baht/month a good price for a motorbike? We're renting from a local.

I tried buying codeine cough syrup from a few pharmacies but they wouldn't help me. I was (and am) legitimately sick. Does anyone have a good way to go about this?

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I haven't read any of the replies, but what's Thailand like?

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Quote: I haven't read any of the replies, but what's Thailand like?

Hahahahaha.

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Reged: 01/04/07 Posts: 42 Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: WhoIam] #9693878 - 03/25/07 03:30 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

That place looks pretty sweet.

To the guy who said that is too expensive remember that Phuket is the richest and most expensive province in Thailand.

There are loads of places all over Thailand even more expensive than that. Loads cheaper as well.

WhoAmI,

how do you like patong? I've been to phuket three times and every time i have stayed in Patong and every time I have hated it. Don't get me wrong, I like what patong has to offer but just seemed really smoggy and dunno, too much concrete for an island paradise.

Full trip report on why you chose Patong/Phuket plz. How you like it, what you do when the sun is out and when its not etc

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Hey guys, im looking for help in regards to a trip to Thailand. Was hoping to discuss some things with anyone who has a decent amount of experience.

Im looking to travel there at the end of this year with mates for around a month. We're all 18 and aren't strugling financially (i.e will be willing to spend a decent amount of money). For example to go to a nice place on the gold coast (australia) over christmas/news years for just one weeks accomadation cost us 6k for one week last new years. That is around 150k baht, that just gives you an example of how expensive it is here.

Enough with that, I notice WhoIam, you are paying 35k baht a month for that place. What is it like near where you are. - Good night spots? clubs, pubs, bars etc - Nice beach? - Anything else making it particulary good....

I really just want to go to Thailand because of the cheap lifestyle you can live there. At this point in time i'd much rather do that than travel around Europe or something

If anyone wants to have a chat with me about Thailand please don't hesitate to PM me. I would love all the information i can get in regards to where to stay, what to look out for, what to do etc etc..

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Newteabag's Thai gf is staying with us and she has some local friends

Good luck Enjoy the ride...

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is that a standard thai kitchen? it looks very bad

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WhoIam,

Mustard and Ketchup?

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Quote: is that a standard thai kitchen? it looks very bad

yes. don't forget its the third world. appliances and bathrooms generally suck.

regarding 18 year old on the way to thailand.

READ THE THREAD

then come back w/ some more specific questions.

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Quote: gf ... local friends

n00b's

if you make it long enough, your happiest day in thailand will be the day you figure out that you wasted your first few (months, years, weeks ???) on hookers.

not that there is anything wrong with that. took me six months or so. i have a good buddy who has been here for 8 years who said he spent his first two years in go-go bars.

it is gloriously easy to transition from being a whore monger to dating respectable hot thai girls. just don't speak 'bar thai' to the repectable girls when you meet them, thats a huge tell that you've been banging tons of whores.

. these words are likely wasted though, it kindof like telling a 16 year old to not drive too fast right after he gets his license.

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kkf,

over under on when one of these patong boys pays a 7 figure baht dowry to a bar girl?

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Quote:

n00b's

if you make it long enough, your happiest day in thailand will be the day you figure out that you wasted your first few (months, years, weeks ???) on hookers.

not that there is anything wrong with that. took me six months or so. i have a good buddy who has been here for 8 years who said he spent his first two years in go-go bars.

it is gloriously easy to transition from being a whore monger to dating respectable hot thai girls. just don't speak 'bar thai' to the repectable girls when you meet them, thats a huge tell that you've been banging tons of whores.

. these words are likely wasted though, it kindof like telling a 16 year old to not drive too fast right after he gets his license.

I think you should stop making your case or your friend case a generality.

You certainly know that having a "good thai gf" is a real headache. cultural misunderstandings, view about sex ( with high class good family thai girl a wait of 4-6 month before sex is standard ), meeting the family (you probably realized how thai people view foreigners and even each others behind the smile ) ect...

Plus the "friends", ahah how many thai males friend do you have? How many thai male friend the typical expat have even after a few years in the LOS ?

Been there done that you are not the only one that figured out that hooking with hot non-pro thai girl is very easy.

Before giving lessons and calling people noobs think of what my answer meant.

Edited by ofdabeat (03/25/07 12:27 PM)

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i thought when you made 'gf' and 'local friends' black you were implying they were hookers.

if not, my bad

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Quote: i thought when you made 'gf' and 'local friends' black you were implying they were hookers.

if not, my bad

ok, sorry bit on the nerves today

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Quote: with high class good family thai girl a wait of 4-6 month before sex is standard

did you read that in a book?

maybe with the king's daughter or something. i've never heard of anybody waiting that long.

in regards to friending thai dudes, its all a matter of the language barrier. if you mix with guys who have spent a lot of time overseas you'll make friends the same as you would a farang guy, if you have common interests etc etc. we have a few thai guys in our group in bangkok, though they've all spent lots of time overseas and are pretty much farang.

have fun. didn't mean to come off harsh. thailand has a steap learning curve, was just trying to help speed it up for you.s

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with high class good family thai girl

No not in a book, let's say we probably have a different definition of "high class" ( mariage or serious gf material ). uni type girls or average middle class workers are quicker i must admit. It's not a fixed rule as always in the land of smile YMMV

Quote: we have a few thai guys in our group in bangkok, though they've all spent lots of time overseas and are pretty much farang.

Exactly my point.

Edited by ofdabeat (03/25/07 01:28 PM)

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Quote:

No not in a book, let's say we probably have a different definition of "high class"

heh. ya my definition is pretty much 'doesn't charge me for sex, has a real job'

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Quote:

Quote:

No not in a book, let's say we probably have a different definition of "high class"

heh. ya my definition is pretty much 'doesn't charge me for sex, has a real job'

Ahah i see anyway your standard are still way higher than the usual : "she said she works bar since 3 months only"

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Ya boy will be in the building in a few days! Holla.

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Reged: 11/21/06 Posts: 2081 Loc: Phuket, Thailand Re: Ask Degen Anything About Living In Thailand [Re: imthaifool] #9720775 - 03/27/07 06:43 AM Edit post Edit  	Reply to this post Reply   	Reply to this post Quote   	Quick Reply Quick Reply

Hello Peeps!

I be the one sharing the villa with WhoIAm. When he refers to my Thai GF he really meant GF, NOT bar girl. I was seeing her in London for over a year long before I then met up with her in Thailand. She has been highly helpful in getting Thai rates vice farang rates for hotels and rent and such.

I deffo agree with blackmagix that it is MUCH better to find a normal Thai girl vs bar girls. It takes a little more effort but is well worth it to not deal with all the standard bar girl headaches. There are still other headaches (as you'll find with any girl in any culture) but they are far less troublesome than the bar girl headaches.

Fuller trip report to follow..

PS Found awesome wifi hotspot on Patong beach.

(Important since residential ADSL has pooped the bed for Southern Thailand for the last few days.)

PPS ZERO chance of myself or WHOIAM (at least when hes around me)paying a SinSod to anyone.

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Iím going to give some of my general impressions from my first two weeks or so here. I was jet-lagged my first two days and then got knocked on my ass by strep throat for about a week after that,so my schedule hasnít exactly been jam-packed with activities. Now epassporte has frozen my account and bank transfers leaving me temporarily broke. Of course it takes days to even get a response from themÖ[deleted rant about customer service]

What no one has mentioned is that itís impossible to understand Thai people when they try to speak English. When I first got here it made me want to cry and Iím only now starting to improve my comprehension. I understood the reason for this when I saw an instructional English show on TV and couldnít understand what the *teacher* was saying. Imagine an 8th-generation photocopy and youíll understand why Thai English is as bad as it is.

The best way to communicate with locals is to use essentially ìme Chineseî English. E.g. ìYou no go. You stay. I need go.î It felt a bit patronizing at first but Iíve gotten used to it.

The Thai expression for ìgood luckî sounds like ìChuck D,î so now whenever Iím on a heater Iíve taken to saying ìChuck D in the house.î The word for pumpkin is ìf*ck thong.î

I had my first motorbike accident two days ago. I was stopped and trying to join traffic in the lane across from me and I gave it too much acceleration for such a sharp turn and wiped out. I was fine except for a tiny bruise on my hip but the bike is going to need a bit of paint before I return it. Iíve now gotten a lot more comfortable on the bike.

All of the Thais seem to think Newteabag is my dad. Heís 9 years older that me and I turn 24 on Friday. I maybe look a few years younger than I actually am, but nowhere near the point where I could be the child of a 33-year-old. Many seem to think that his gf is my mom despite the fact that I donít look asian and have blue eyes.

All I can say about the internet so far is that it falls short of my expectations. Now letís change the subject before I break something.

Thereís a ton of hot farang jailbait in Patong.

You can get maybe 95% of the things you want in Thailand. If you want a blender or a toaster oven, for example, you can go to a western-style department store and get it. Phuket has a few western-style supermarkets that have much of what you want at prices that are probably much higher than what most Thais pay. I image these are for farang and wealthy Thais.

Some ladyboys are really easy to pick out and some are disturbingly non-obvious. For some reason many foreigners think that their entire goal in life is to dupe some farang into sleeping with them. From what Iíve seen so far, it would be difficult (but not impossible) to unknowingly end up with one. Iíve figured out that if a girl looks like it took her 3 hours to get ready, sheís probably not a girl. Funny story: a few nights ago we pass a group of several regular-looking guys with a number of shemale companions. Newteabag says out loud, ìI wonder if they know theyíre ladyboys.î Guy: ìYeah, we know.î Guess you had to be there.

Some women go topless on Patong beach, but it seems like their willingness to do this is inversely proportional to their youth and attractiveness.

Thai women are much hotter in person than in pictures.

At one bar I went to the most expensive beer was Guinness at 200 baht/bottle. The second most expensiveÖCoors.

Having a native Thai person in the house is extremely useful for sorting things out and keeps the prices down. We were warned not to talk while she was on the phone with real estate agents and potential landlords because prices increase significantly for farang for just about anything.

Does anyone have any idea where the single white chicks hang out in Patong?

Quote: how do you like patong? I've been to phuket three times and every time i have stayed in Patong and every time I have hated it. Don't get me wrong, I like what patong has to offer but just seemed really smoggy and dunno, too much concrete for an island paradise.

Full trip report on why you chose Patong/Phuket plz. How you like it, what you do when the sun is out and when its not etc

I just want to stress again that the location of our place is perfect. I can hop on my scooter and be at the beach or Bangla road in well under 5 minutes yet I can see and hear nothing but jungle and a few houses. Our place is roughly where my finger is on this map. [image]http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=patong.JPG[/image] Patong isnít that big and the built-up part is mostly just a big rectangle as you can see on the above map. In a surprisingly sensible bit of road planning, almost all of the streets in this area are one-way, making it hard for stupid tourists (read me) to get into accidents.

We didnít have any pressing reasons for choosing Patong. We planned to check out places in BKK, Phuket, and maybe another island before deciding. We came to Phuket first (after messing around in Bangkok for a day or two) and this was one of the places we looked at in the first day. They wanted 40k/month and were totally inflexible about this. The slow season here starts next month and most places get up to 50% cheaper and we wouldnít accept paying the full rate. They called us that night offering us 35k and we accepted because it was everything we were looking for in the perfect location. Our lease is month-to-month so if we ever find a much better deal or get sick of Phuket we can move without any hassle. If I stay in Thailand for more than a few months Iíll probably move to Bangkok.

Things I hate about Patong are 99% of the tourists and the dozens of people trying to sell me [censored] every time I walk down the street or eat a meal.

As I said before, I havenít had tons of time to explore Patong so remind me in a week or two and I can provide some details.

Quote: Enough with that, I notice WhoIam, you are paying 35k baht a month for that place. What is it like near where you are. - Good night spots? clubs, pubs, bars etc - Nice beach? - Anything else making it particulary good....

If youíre a young guy with a bit of money in your pocket, I canít imagine a much better place than Patong. There are countless regular bars, sports bars, go-go bars, beer bars, western-style restaurants, and western-style clubs. You can get a girl for around US $60 and booze, while not as cheap as everything else in Thailand, is reasonably priced. Many of the working girls are startlingly cute, and this is coming from someone who has never been that into asian chicks.

The beach is nice and fairly crowded most of the time. There are a couple nicer and less-crowded beaches within a half-hour north/south of here.

Are you aussie? You can get VB at some of the bars and watch your weird sports if thatís what youíre into.

Quote: is that a standard thai kitchen? it looks very bad

When you can buy a full meal starting at 30 baht, you donít have much use for a full kitchen. Some of the places we looked at had western-style kitchens but it wasnít very important for us. What was important was that we find a place with a western-style showeróin Thailand the bathroom often is the shower.

While we donít have a stove, we do have a urinal in the half bath. And really, whatís more important? In an amusing reversal of the standard American traveler, I complained to Newteabagís gf that I couldnít figure out how to use the bidet. ìNo, you pee.î ìI pee in it?î ìYeahî ìBut not for washing?î ìNo, no washî ìSo itís a urinalî ìYesî ì[censored] Awesome!î

Anyone have any idea where I can meet some non-prostitutes around here?

For the guy who PMíed me about the 5k/month hotel, I have their business card around here somewhere and Iíll PM you when I find it. The place is in Phuket city, not Patong and you would need to enlist the help of a Thai person to get that price.

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Nice report, it's appreciated.

Still looking to make my first trip over. One thing that concerns me is how my stomach will handle the food/water.

Any issues in this area? I'd hate to go over for few weeks & be plagued by the runs for much of my visit.

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Not even Thais drink the water. Bottled water is cheap and you can get it in every restaurant any every store. Ice is generally safe because all reputable places buy bags of it made from purified water. As for digestive problems, neither newteabag nor I have had any problems but others in this thread have. Conceivably you could stay here for an extended period and eat nothing but hamburgers, fried chicken, and pizza.

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Quote: Nice report, it's appreciated.

Still looking to make my first trip over. One thing that concerns me is how my stomach will handle the food/water.

Any issues in this area? I'd hate to go over for few weeks & be plagued by the runs for much of my visit.

Thais and farang alike drink bottled water. I'm sure some tap water makes its way into the cooking but so far after 12 days we haven't had any stomach or runs probs. If you are very sensitive to spicy food you might want to either adjust to it before comig or be very diligent about asking for low spicy on all dishes as the standard meal for Thais does include a lot of hot chili.

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Non prostitutes in Patong?

Bro, I dont think you understand where it is that you live. There are four main area's in Thailand that are notorious for prostitution:

1. Walking street in Pattaya 2. Soi Cowyboy in Bangkok 3. Nana Plaza in Bangkok

and....drumroll please...

Patong Beach (and more specifically Bangla Road) in Phuket.

Non-prostitutes don't tend to frequent these places

You can however find them nearby. I forget the name but there is another beach very near there that is more touristy. Lots of people go to Phuket that are not whores or looking for whores, they just usually stear clear of Patong.

Edit: lest i sound like i disapprove of your location, my apartmnet in bangkok is pefectly equidistant from Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza

You just have to hop in a cab to go to the spots in Phuket with good girls in them. Where those spots are should be easy enough to figure out, just ask some other white dudes.